Or, you know, right now with butane and direct-carbon fuel cells. And it can be phased out as battery energy density improves.Andres125sx wrote: ↑23 Mar 2017, 11:22I think none in this forum is so positive about electric cars as myself, but to reach power levels of F1 with similar endurance (300km) we´ll need three or four new generations of improved energy density batteries, or close to 10x current energy density, probably even more
But yes, if F1 continue using ICEs FE will not need to match F1 numbers to become the new pinnacle of motorsports
Current Formula car (F1, Indycar, etc.) rules basically limit speed through inefficiency (simplification but generally true). So probably some technical room to get F1 laptimes without F1 levels of power or energy consumption. Maybe this trend will meet the battery energy-density trend somewhere in the middle.Andres125sx wrote: ↑23 Mar 2017, 11:22I think none in this forum is so positive about electric cars as myself, but to reach power levels of F1 with similar endurance (300km) we´ll need three or four new generations of improved energy density batteries, or close to 10x current energy density, probably even more
But yes, if F1 continue using ICEs FE will not need to match F1 numbers to become the new pinnacle of motorsports
changing bike midpoint of race is more similar for motogp racers and fans.Formula Wrong wrote: ↑05 Mar 2017, 20:03Actually, a "Moto E" series doesn't sound like a bad idea at all (though they probably shouldn't drive on FE tracks given that they're street circuits)Andres125sx wrote:Maybe because it is Formula E instead of Moto EFW17 wrote:Why Formula E has not added a bike race to the package?
Electric Bikes not relevant?
http://www.sportrider.com/sites/sportri ... k=bM7Fk1Cv
I wouldn't get my hopes up. There was only one notable startup who worked on this (24m with MIT), but they gave up: https://qz.com/433131/the-story-of-the- ... g-as-well/deltaecho5 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2017, 00:24Also, liquid mag slurry batteries may be the future of racing...the electrolyte solution is ferrous metal sludge that can be pumped out when discharged and new charged slurry pumped in thus renewing the battery.
If they ever get to refueling batteries in this way for racing, then "engines" may be replaced by "motors" after all..
Thanks for that article! Similiar to what I was thinking when I mentioned that, but I didn't find the part about replacing the fluid, only using via an onboard tank system...
It's about the same people who decided it's not economical, abandoned the approach. Also their goal was to reach the energy density of li-ion. Which I doubt they ever did. Also the mentioned problems with the pumping. But even if they did reach the energy density of li-ion, what's de advantage? In races they'd probably engineer a battery swap system that is much faster than pumping sludge in and out. For road cars battery charging speed is of a much lesser significance especially with the new generation of 200+ mile range cars.deltaecho5 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2017, 13:28Another article expands that idea and makes more sense for racing and production vehicles...(not sure it you had heard about this part, but thought I would pass it along...)This in essence would be just like a refueling pit stop...
"Same impact" - hardly..notsofast wrote: ↑15 Jul 2017, 17:17There's a Formula E race in New York City this weekend. If it turns out to be successful, it could be a problem for Liberty's ambitions to popularize F1 in the US. There was talk about an F1 race in the NY area a few years ago. Why would NY (or any town in that area) agree to a noisy F1 race if you can get the same impact with a Formula E race? Let's see what happens this weekend.
Well these "comfort" tires are all weather times,they work in anytype of surface (tarmac,cement) and anytype of weather (wet,bonedry,dusty) they are not seriously dependant on temperature,even though you could see some of this in FE Qualifying and these tires are also independent of Tyre heater/Blankets etc ,cplchanb wrote:https://www.motorsport.com/dtm/news/mer ... ry-934184/
Merc has also jumped off the DTM boat and into FE!
On another note, does FE have any plans in the future to use slicks instead of those comfort tires?
There will be a double race at the weekend. So that certainly won't be enough on saturday. Buemi needs to gain 19 points on DiGrassi to be the champion.Phil wrote: ↑25 Jul 2017, 13:37I know the technical stuff is really interesting, but are there some people here just eager to watch the finale this Saturday?
I was a bit surprised to see the Championship leader (Buemi) miss New York and his commanding lead in the championship reduced to 10 points from 35 (which IMO is not that bad, considering 58 points were on the table). This would mean that a 3rd place would still suffice for Buemi if DiGrassi wins (without fastest lap).
Having watched all the races so far, I do have to say that one has to be impressed with how Buemi is driving so far...