WEC (World Endurance Championship) 2013

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WhiteBlue wrote:
RB7ate9 wrote:Ferrari, Aston Martin, Mazda, Mclaren
You are entitled to your opinion but I'm convinced that other firms like Mercedes, Audi, BMW, Toyota, Honda, Nissan and others will fill the gap.
Honda is already in LMP with the Wirth designed HPD's
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The last hour of qualifying will be run on a dry track but of course the track is green and it is questionable that the Audi #2 time will be beaten. Eurosport is reporting live.
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WhiteBlue wrote:
RB7ate9 wrote:Ferrari, Aston Martin, Mazda, Mclaren
You are entitled to your opinion but I'm convinced that other firms like Mercedes, Audi, BMW, Toyota, Honda, Nissan and others will fill the gap.
I certainly hope that Mercedes launches a new LMP1 program, a bid to reclaim the marque from the stigma of the 1999 CLR flips.

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WhiteBlue wrote:
RB7ate9 wrote:Ferrari, Aston Martin, Mazda, Mclaren
You are entitled to your opinion but I'm convinced that other firms like Mercedes, Audi, BMW, Toyota, Honda, Nissan and others will fill the gap.
I certainly hope that Mercedes launches a new LMP1 program, a bid to reclaim the marque from the stigma of the 1999 CLR flips.

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WhiteBlue wrote:
RB7ate9 wrote:Ferrari, Aston Martin, Mazda, Mclaren
You are entitled to your opinion but I'm convinced that other firms like Mercedes, Audi, BMW, Toyota, Honda, Nissan and others will fill the gap.
I certainly hope that Mercedes launches a new LMP1 program, a bid to reclaim the marque from the stigma of the 1999 CLR flips.
In the case of Merc I would not be so optimistic. There is hardly one big manufacturer who ever ran an LMP1 and an F1 program concurrently. It must be too huge a drain of money and resources to do so. And Merc are fairly committed to F1 it looks to me. You also have to consider the older history they had in Le Mans.
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all the drama and tragedy did not stop them launching multiple clks not too long ago in lemans... Good greef nobody started a shitstorm back then on these irresponsible doings .
But I agree Mercedes will not allow themselves to go to Mans again...

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A taste of 2014... or the return of the Batmobile ?

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WhiteBlue wrote: In the case of Merc I would not be so optimistic. There is hardly one big manufacturer who ever ran an LMP1 and an F1 program concurrently. It must be too huge a drain of money and resources to do so. And Merc are fairly committed to F1 it looks to me. You also have to consider the older history they had in Le Mans.
http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http ... Ag&dur=550
http://www.ewilkins.com/wilko/pics/picture4.jpg
I had certainly considered the 1955 tragedy, but figured that they had returned before now, so something else (most likely financial burden like you said) must be keeping them out.

13 hours!

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RB7ate9 wrote:
WhiteBlue wrote: In the case of Merc I would not be so optimistic. There is hardly one big manufacturer who ever ran an LMP1 and an F1 program concurrently. It must be too huge a drain of money and resources to do so. And Merc are fairly committed to F1 it looks to me. You also have to consider the older history they had in Le Mans.
http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http ... Ag&dur=550
http://www.ewilkins.com/wilko/pics/picture4.jpg
I had certainly considered the 1955 tragedy, but figured that they had returned before now, so something else (most likely financial burden like you said) must be keeping them out.

13 hours!
they are in F1, that is pricey to say the least. when was the last time a manufacturer did both at the same time?

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The McLaren TAG-Porsche's in 1985? Porsche then also ran Le Mans with the 956/962 are the last one I can think of. Oh and the 1999 Mercedes effort
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But the TAG engine was fully paid by TAG and the chassis by McLaren. So in terms of resource tie up and financial strain it doesn't count.
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wesley123 wrote:The McLaren TAG-Porsche's in 1985? Porsche then also ran Le Mans with the 956/962 are the last one I can think of. Oh and the 1999 Mercedes effort
so quite along time ago and the were "only" supplying engines for F1

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Today's warm up session showed a slightly different result than qualifying, where Audi had a clear advantage over the Toyotas. This time the Toyota of Lapierre clocked the fastest lap with a time of 3:26.227 with the three Audis being close behind within one second. As the session was red flagged three minutes before the end while one of the Audis marked a fastest first sector time, it maybe isn't the "real" result. But Toyota seems to be much closer in race trim than in qualifying.

Let's hope for a close race!
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