Moto GP 2016.

[F1NAC]

Still faster than pirelli

[J.A.W.]

Well, the Czech G.P. was another lottery, due to the wet weather/tyre choices.

But lo & behold, for the 1st time in ~35 years, a Brit stood on top of the box, so good effort there as winner, Cal Crutchlow.
Rossi's choice of rubber compound appeared to have let him down, but he persevered to take 2nd, from MM.. who looks good for the title.

[GPR-A duplicate2]

Still faster than pirelli

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqaOtrrWYAA1DPz.jpg

Importantly, despite such a high wear, it didn't blow out. That proves, it is possible to make tyres that grain, wear and what not, but still stay together.

[henry]

Still faster than pirelli

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqaOtrrWYAA1DPz.jpg

Importantly, despite such a high wear, it didn't blow out. That proves, it is possible to make tyres that grain, wear and what not, but still stay together.

Do you think that is an altogether fair comparison considering the difference in loads the two formulae apply to the tyres?

[Juzh]

Rossi's choice of rubber compound appeared to have let him down, but he persevered to take 2nd, from MM.. who looks good for the title.

Key word "appeared", as it was only the case at the start of the race. Same with cruclow. It quickly became clear when it didn't wanna dry out any sort of hard wet compund was vastly superior.

[Jolle]

Still faster than pirelli

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqaOtrrWYAA1DPz.jpg

Importantly, despite such a high wear, it didn't blow out. That proves, it is possible to make tyres that grain, wear and what not, but still stay together.

"Stay together" is not something I think that applies to this front tire. It's missing some key elements that make up a tire. That it still holds air is more luck then design. If it would have lost a bit more rubber and the cords would have touched the tarmac he would have crashed (best case, front wheel wipeout, worst case, high speed crash)

[Samraj_official]

Pirelli must definitely learn atleast something from yesterdays motogp race, yes i know we should compare car compounds to bike compounds but still the Michelin wet tires raced gracefully despite the last 7-8 being quite dry!!

[henry]

Pirelli must definitely learn atleast something from yesterdays motogp race, yes i know we should compare car compounds to bike compounds but still the Michelin wet tires raced gracefully despite the last 7-8 being quite dry!!

If by "raced gracefully" you mean " finished with a third of the tread missing" you make a very good point.

[Samraj_official]

Pirelli must definitely learn atleast something from yesterdays motogp race, yes i know we should compare car compounds to bike compounds but still the Michelin wet tires raced gracefully despite the last 7-8 being quite dry!!

If by "raced gracefully" you mean " finished with a third of the tread missing" you make a very good point.

No, but the thing to be noted is, despite a third of the tread missing, the wet bikes were pretty competitive against hard runners on a drying track and it wasn't a free fall either...

[henry]

Pirelli must definitely learn atleast something from yesterdays motogp race, yes i know we should compare car compounds to bike compounds but still the Michelin wet tires raced gracefully despite the last 7-8 being quite dry!!

If by "raced gracefully" you mean " finished with a third of the tread missing" you make a very good point.

No, but the thing to be noted is, despite a third of the tread missing, the wet bikes were pretty competitive against hard runners on a drying track and it wasn't a free fall either...

And also to note that Lorenzo and Dovisioso both had to change bikes because they couldn't continue on chunked front tyres. But I am not critical of the tyres or their manufacturers but rather your, in my mind, wholly inappropriate comparison between anything in this MotoGP race and F1. It smacks of seizing any remotely appropriate stick and beating Pirelli with it.

[Samraj_official]

oops sorry instead of typing " we shouldn't compare tires between both championships" i typed " we should compare".....pretty big mistake on my side..... ....case closed.....

[Pierce89]

Still faster than pirelli

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqaOtrrWYAA1DPz.jpg

Importantly, despite such a high wear, it didn't blow out. That proves, it is possible to make tyres that grain, wear and what not, but still stay together.

"Stay together" is not something I think that applies to this front tire. It's missing some key elements that make up a tire. That it still holds air is more luck then design. If it would have lost a bit more rubber and the cords would have touched the tarmac he would have crashed (best case, front wheel wipeout, worst case, high speed crash)

Yes this front tire is so horrible that on their first try Michelin is equal in pace to the Bridgestone tires developed for over a decade. You're the only person still complaining the riders finally realized these tires just have a different feel to get used to and got on with it. Overall though, my first statement says all that needs said.

[J.A.W.]

Pirelli has been the World Superbike Championship series sole tyre supplier - for the past decade, as it happens..

If you want to compare the race times Michelin has managed vs Bridgestone last season, the Moto GP site has the data.

[Pierce89]

Pirelli has been the World Superbike Championship series sole tyre supplier - for the past decade, as it happens..

If you want to compare the race times Michelin has managed vs Bridgestone last season, the Moto GP site has the data.

I know and Michelin has actually already beat Bridgestone in some race times, yet people are slagging off Michelin. It's mind blowing to me.

[J.A.W.]

Grid positions for pending British GP at Silverstone, (Q done in wet conditions, but a dry race forecast).

1, C C;
2, V.R.;
3, M.V;
4,D.P.;
5,M.M..