Blackout wrote:wesley123 wrote:They didnt work then and I dont see why they would work now.
They might wotk in 2014 far better than in 2009 because 2014 endplate will be almost centered in front of the wheels because of the narrower FW. They might direct air inside and outside the wheel more easily and symmetrically. They will remove less front wing surface than 2009 too, IMHO
There was around 75mm off either side right? They are still further down outboard than inboard. Yes, they are closer inboard than before, but you are still quite far away from the inside of the wheel. It isnt like pre-2009.
True, but it simply is lost wing area. Not to mention that current front end aero works on sending air around the tire. So for teams it would also be an more obvious choice. Yoiu have the choice between a well developped idea of air around the outside of the tire and all the stuff that comes with that(also inboard of the wheel), or you could develop this new solution.
Maybe you're right, and inside of the tire would be the better solution, I still think teams will be launching their cars with the outboard solution, mainly for the ease of it, and introduce the different solution for later in the season, when it is well developped.
Lot's of members have been saying the Front Wing serves a more important function than before, with the wingtips etc. everything is put right to aid flow further downstream. So that is also something big that has to be taken in account.
but you are also putting a giant wall in front of the front wheel which has no use other than to comply to the rules(iic)
But those R29 endplates were a primitive version and since then all teams learned a huge amount of tricks to better manage the flow and the rules in that area with slits, vortex generators etc so that wall wont stay a wall IMO
True about that, but afaik that was something disallowed for 2014(slits in the end plate) I have thought about it a little, and thought of various solutions. For example a large vane direction the air outboard, but afaik that would be illegal.
Another thing would be, what I already had seen was given by someone as a solution here, was that the top side of the end plate would send air inboard(and increase pressure by this move on the top surface) and the lower side would go outboard, which would reduce pressure under the wing. I believe that is the only solution of bleeding air inboard that could actually work.
