Most pec...bizarre aerodynamics thread.

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xpensive wrote:Believe it or not, but this was considered very peculiar at the time;
oops ronnie did not run the 78 very often ..he had to on that fatal day in monza .

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xpensive wrote:Actually, I think this front was bizarre enough, what was Gordon Murray thinking....
Did this have the radiators in the bearclaw?

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I guess you mean "lobsterclaw" mod, yes it started with the BT34, by Ron Tauranac, while Gordon Murray continued on BT42/44/46.

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Murray argued that the front mounted position kept the radiators smaller and was good for weight distribution.
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After leaving Brabham, Tauranac designed something even more ghoulish for Trojan, but based on the same concept;

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That one stat above looks like it more properly belongs..
.. in the 'most bizarrely top-hat air intake scoop'.. ..or 'biggest F1 car mobile billboard'.. thread..

Was a radiator slotted in there?
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There were a lot of crazy aero things going on in the late '60s and '70s, but as weird as they are I am always fascinated seeing them, seeing how people were experimenting new ideas back in the days.

Keep the pictures coming, guys.
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Have we had these ones before?

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What about the Golden Arrow? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Arrow_%28car%29

An article about it from 1929 in Popular Science: http://books.google.de/books?id=XSgDAAA ... &q&f=false (on page 18, it tells us what is/was ahead in aviation)

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More technical specifics on the Golden Arrow..
http://www.autospeed.com/cms/article.ht ... w&A=113048
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Ed Hilary on being 1st to top Mt Everest,
(& 1st to do a surface traverse across Antarctica,
in good Kiwi style - riding a Massey Ferguson farm
tractor - with a few extemporised mod's to hack the task).

MadMatt
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Time Attack Silvia with bodykit by mister Brillant:

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I doubt the car will go quick enough to fill the tunnels. They look ridiculously big.

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What do you mean go fast enough? It's one of the fastest time attack cars in the world. Same laptime as a Formula 3 car, despite being on road legal tires.

That Car has the most aero downforce of any car ever made. That includes Group C

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Mythbusters test on aerodynamic effects of golfball holes on a car;
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it actually did save gas :wtf:

some more instersting stuff

Acabion Da Vinci; ultra-efficient, 1,200 mpg, 650 km/h, solar electric vehicle.

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Acabion GTBO

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http://www.gizmag.com/acabion-gtbo-fast ... yron/8777/
beating they Veyron's top speed using only 20% throttle. The Acabion GTBO is said to top out at around 340mph (close to 550kmh) if you're game enough to hold on to 50% throttle, and with engines varying from 350 to 750 horsepower, it's a very serious piece of kit... Even if it does have training wheels.
more aeromadness

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Nardi Bisiluro Damolnar

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Rondeau

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Pegaso

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Team Surtees F2, 1974 water radiator rear wing;

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MadMatt
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NoDivergence wrote:What do you mean go fast enough? It's one of the fastest time attack cars in the world. Same laptime as a Formula 3 car, despite being on road legal tires.

That Car has the most aero downforce of any car ever made. That includes Group C
Do you know how much air flow velocity and amount you need to fill a tunnel that big? I ? My experience tells me that he will have flow separation in the diffuser itself and that this air flow will not be pretty to watch in CFD with streamlines.

In the following video (couldn't find a more recent one with speed displayed) he is not exceeding 265km/h:



Not enough to fill that diffuser. Have you got downforce and drag numbers to add? I have those of some of the group C machines.