Single Seater Frames

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Post Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:49 am

Can any one help me with different projections and pictures of Single seater Frames, thanks
mahesh248
 
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Location: India

Post Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:51 am

I assume your refering to a spaceframe chassis?

MrT
MrT
 
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Post Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:53 am

yeah ... dude ..i just want to know how they look and how they are wielded together .
mahesh248
 
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Location: India

Post Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:33 pm

Hope these help.

<img src=http://www.kodiakmotorsports.com/foxonjiglrg.jpg >
<img src=http://wdolson.com/bdracing/l69chas.jpg >
<img src=http://www.chrismore.com/graphics/ff_062501/images/ff_062501_2.jpg >
<img src=http://www.chrismore.com/graphics/ff_062501/images/ff_062501_3.jpg >
MrT
 
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Post Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:36 pm

Thanks man ..thats cool ..u made them ..?
mahesh248
 
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Location: India

Post Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:40 pm

Nope, these are all formula ford chassis. I have designed and made spaceframe chassis before for formula student, plus a honeycomb reinforced version but don't have any pictures of the chassis itself.
MrT
 
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Post Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:38 pm

flynfrog
 
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Post Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:18 pm

Say m planning to use lead steal ...for the space frame , do u guys have something to say about it ..?
mahesh248
 
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Location: India

Post Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:54 pm

mahesh248 wrote:Say m planning to use lead steal ...for the space frame , do u guys have something to say about it ..?
I would use a lead tin alloy it will be more malable and have a lower melting temp
flynfrog
 
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Post Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:56 pm

Quite a few racecars have their spaceframes made from AISI 4130 alloy.
Monstrobolaxa
 
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Post Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:15 pm

Steel - I would use CDS (Cold drawn steel only which is seemless) something like T40....
MrT
 
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Post Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:39 am

i have a Budget also , so things have to fit into it , I mite not be able to use CDS if the Price tag is too much .
mahesh248
 
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Location: India

Post Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:48 am

Absolutely everything you need to know about single seater spaceframe construction. Read it. Study it in depth. After devoting time and study, gaining a basis of knowledge that will allow you to ask questions based on expertise. Use search engines. A massive amount of material is available to anyone willing to do the work. This is a starting point. After study return with questions based on expertise. Your questions are so general they will lead to 200 pages on the Forum. Do the work. Research the FIT threads, a wealth of design information and recommended texts specifically on spaceframe construction is on the F1Technical Forum. Contact the author of the link below. Race Car Engineering/ss collins have run multiple articles on FSAE and space frame formulas. The text referred to in this dissertation, on spaceframe construction > Racing & Sports Car Chassis Design by M Costin can be bought on the internet for as little as 6USD or a pristine copy for 2400USD. Search for it. Buy it.

Formula SAE-A Space Frame Chassis Design Dissertatioin by Christopher Scott Baker, University of Southern Queensland, 2004
116 pages
http://eprints.usq.edu.au/39/1/christop ... R-2004.pdf
Everything you need including structural anaylsis with formula from M Costin book included in the above PDF

This site features a series of pictures under "Construction" showing the entire procedure of building a complete chassis jig/bench then building/welding a space frame chassis from begining to end.

http://www.projectsupercar.com/design.htm

Now build your spaceframe chassis :wink:

Just do it :wink:
EDIT - The last GP/Formula 1 spaceframe chassis were built from - " Twenty five ton mild steel is quite suitable for welded tubular structures of the space frame type, but some manufacturers use a material which approximates to aircraft T45 specification, a maganese steel alloy which is particularly suitable for welding" - M Costin - The "Cos" in Cosworth.
Carlos
 
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Location: Canada

Post Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:23 pm

thanks carlos .. m new to this . will start building mine soon , but i need to do my home work first . hehe
mahesh248
 
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Location: India

Post Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:54 pm

Thanks mahesh248 ... you are really tolerant and I will admit I'm in a bit of a mood today :wink:

Although this is a sportscar and wider than a single seater; the 'Chassis' page is really useful -( Marcos spaceframes were often built on a simple wood table) showing details on mounting plates/fixtures, wishbone construction. spaceframe construction and plans... be sure to use the arrow 'button' at the bottom of the page for more pictues. I think the steel plate for mounts and attachments is 5mm... and low tech compared to race cars...this is a road car project and used simple rubber and plain sleeve bearings to attach suspension, engine, transmission and components.

http://silicon.fastnet.co.uk/specialist ... esign.html
Carlos
 
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