Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009

Here are our CFD links and discussions about aerodynamics, suspension, driver safety and tyres. Please stick to F1 on this forum.
Giblet
Giblet
5
Joined: 19 Mar 2007, 01:47
Location: Canada

Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009

Post

As our Moderator, Ciro, has attempted to point out, this thread is not for discussing anything but the technical development of the car.

Please listen, and let this post be a line in the sand, thanks.
Before I do anything I ask myself “Would an idiot do that?” And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing. - Dwight Schrute

User avatar
Ciro Pabón
106
Joined: 11 May 2005, 00:31

Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009

Post

Pu-leez. I have had two reports about this thread already. No more speculations, they will be moved or erased. Please, use the NEW THREAD button if you have the urge to explain why something else happened.
Ciro

Mikey_s
Mikey_s
8
Joined: 21 Dec 2005, 11:06

Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009

Post

bar555 wrote:EXHAUSTS - SINGAPORE
Image




DIFFUSER - SINGAPORE
Image




FRONT BRAKES - SINGAPORE
Image
looking at the bottom pic of the front brake assembly it seems there is a secodary air intake feeding air to the brake caliper... I haven't noticed any discussion of this in this, or other threads, (but accept I m ight have missed it!)... is this unique to Macca??

Also... there are a lot of sensors feeding through hthe upper wishbone - anyone care to speculate on what these are measuring... Temperature is a obvious candidate, wear of the disc/calipers another... but there seem to be planty of sensors there...
Mike

razzmyth
razzmyth
0
Joined: 13 Aug 2009, 14:44

Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009

Post

Mikey_s wrote:Also... there are a lot of sensors feeding through hthe upper wishbone - anyone care to speculate on what these are measuring... Temperature is a obvious candidate, wear of the disc/calipers another... but there seem to be planty of sensors there...
I'm also curious as to what all the sensors are.

I’ve never noticed the adjustable Ackerman before, neat.

compo
compo
0
Joined: 21 Oct 2009, 22:33

Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009

Post

:?:
Last edited by compo on 22 Nov 2009, 11:08, edited 1 time in total.

Richard
Richard
Moderator
Joined: 15 Apr 2009, 14:41
Location: UK

Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009

Post

Mikey_s wrote:looking at the bottom pic of the front brake assembly it seems there is a secodary air intake feeding air to the brake caliper... I haven't noticed any discussion of this in this, or other threads, (but accept I m ight have missed it!)... is this unique to Macca??
Oh yes, there's the big air scoop and below there is a little pencil thin periscope of an air duct. I wonnder what that is for.

bar555
bar555
10
Joined: 08 Aug 2007, 18:13
Location: Greece - Athens

Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009

Post

Mikey_s

This wing-like element with the horizontal hole helps to cool the brake calliper itself .It has been already illustrated in page 2 at the current thread ( viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6599&start=15 ) . Toyota uses a similar concept reverted -L shaped winglet in the TF109 .

The idea is not new as Ferrari first introduced an additional brake cooling winglet-style element back in 2005

Image
F2005
Future is like walking into past......

Blog : http://formula1techandart.wordpress.com/
Twitter :http://twitter.com/bar555onF1

speedsense
speedsense
13
Joined: 31 May 2009, 19:11
Location: California, USA

Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009

Post

goony wrote:wheel speed brake wear and temp
if u can find sum pics of the mirrors we had thermal imaging cams in them for a time to check tyre temp on the go

goony
There would also be an receiver for a "pickup" of the internal tire air pressure located in this area, as it's transmitted by wireless through the wheel... the "accurate" range for the receiver is 2 feet unless that has been improved in recent years and can be put on the chassis, some 3.5 feet away.


I too would like to thank BAR555 for the great posts this year hopefully you will do the same next year.... great job!!
"Driving a car as fast as possible (in a race) is all about maintaining the highest possible acceleration level in the appropriate direction." Peter Wright,Techical Director, Team Lotus

bar555
bar555
10
Joined: 08 Aug 2007, 18:13
Location: Greece - Athens

Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009

Post

speedsense wrote: I too would like to thank BAR555 for the great posts this year hopefully you will do the same next year.... great job!!
thanks speedsense ,

The 2009 season is not yet over for me . I will continue working on the M4/24 technical evolution , enriching further this thead ( and similar threads as well ) .

As regards the 2010 season , i can not tell for sure whether i will do analogous topics or not .
Last edited by bar555 on 05 Nov 2009, 19:47, edited 1 time in total.
Future is like walking into past......

Blog : http://formula1techandart.wordpress.com/
Twitter :http://twitter.com/bar555onF1

Mikey_s
Mikey_s
8
Joined: 21 Dec 2005, 11:06

Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009

Post

bar,
I have no idea where you ge the pics or where you find the time to do what you do, but it is great and thanks for doing it.
Fantastic effort.
Mike

Richard
Richard
Moderator
Joined: 15 Apr 2009, 14:41
Location: UK

Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009

Post

Mikey_s wrote:bar,
I have no idea where you ge the pics or where you find the time to do what you do, but it is great and thanks for doing it.
Fantastic effort.
x 2

TRICKLE69
TRICKLE69
3
Joined: 08 Feb 2008, 05:00
Location: USA

Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009

Post

richard_leeds wrote:
Mikey_s wrote:bar,
I have no idea where you ge the pics or where you find the time to do what you do, but it is great and thanks for doing it.
Fantastic effort.
x 2
X3 Pics are unbelievable!!!
IT IS WHAT IT IS

bar555
bar555
10
Joined: 08 Aug 2007, 18:13
Location: Greece - Athens

Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009

Post

EXHAUSTS - JAPAN
Image




DIFFUSER - JAPAN
Image




FRONT BRAKES - JAPAN
Image
Future is like walking into past......

Blog : http://formula1techandart.wordpress.com/
Twitter :http://twitter.com/bar555onF1

razzmyth
razzmyth
0
Joined: 13 Aug 2009, 14:44

Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009

Post

The brake rotor adapter plate is a slightly different design (thicker) and has 10 nuts instead of 6. Possibly higher braking loads in Japan?

bar555
bar555
10
Joined: 08 Aug 2007, 18:13
Location: Greece - Athens

Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009

Post

GP of BRAZIL
Image

Undergone changes from Japan
1.A modified front wing was tested but not finally used for race
2.Revised rear wing
3.Symmetricity to exhaust outlets was the choice for this race
Future is like walking into past......

Blog : http://formula1techandart.wordpress.com/
Twitter :http://twitter.com/bar555onF1