Pre Qualifying for 2010

[FGD]

With 13 teams and 26 cars lined-up to race in F1 next year, will we see a return to pre-qualifying?

I recall there was a rule limiting F1 starting grid to just 24 cars. Has this rule been changed?

[ISLAMATRON]

yep

[FGD]

yep

The rule has been changed or there will be pre-qualifying next year?

[wesley123]

the rule is changed, there was an overall 24 car limit, but they raised it by one team

[ISLAMATRON]

yep

[Dukeage]

No pre-qualifying, the rules don't mention it. All the cars will start the race as well - there is no 107% rule now.

[Callum]

What do you think will happen if a team is too slow?

[DaveKillens]

The amended 2010 Sporting Regulations.

33) QUALIFYING PRACTICE
33.1 The qualifying practice session will take place on the day before the race from 14.00 to 15.00.
The session will be run as follows :
a) From 14.00 to 14.20 (Q1) all cars will be permitted on the track and at the end of this period the slowest eight cars will be prohibited from taking any further part in the session.
Lap times achieved by the eighteen remaining cars will then be deleted.
b) From 14.27 to 14.42 (Q2) the eighteen remaining cars will be permitted on the track and at the end of this period the slowest eight cars will be prohibited from taking any further part in the session.
Lap times achieved by the ten remaining cars will then be deleted.
c) From 14.50 to 15.00 (Q3) the ten remaining cars will be permitted on the track.
The above procedure is based upon a Championship entry of 26 cars. If 24 cars are entered seven will be excluded after Q1 and Q2U and if 22 cars are entered six cars will be excluded after Q1 and Q2.

[Belatti]

What do you think will happen if a team is too slow?

In 1995, Fortis where 7 to 9 secs off the peace, they usually finished between 5 to 7 laps down the race winner. However they had good reliability. Because of that disastrous performance 107% rule appeared. In 1996 the car speed improved but reliability went down. Now they were 3 to 4 secs off the peace. If I recall Luca Badoer was close to scoring some points in the Monaco 1996 chaos.

Now, Force India is 2 seconds or less off the peace. A decade ago FI would have been in the middle pack, maybe fighting for points. So I think too slow would be more than 4 seconds off, right?

[FGD]

Okay... the rules have been changed to allow for a maximum 26 car grid. But there may be more than 26 cars fighting to be on the grid next year or in the years to come. Are they really going to put 28 or 30 cars on the track for Q1?

[ISLAMATRON]

Okay... the rules have been changed to allow for a maximum 26 car grid. But there may be more than 26 cars fighting to be on the grid next year or in the years to come. Are they really going to put 28 or 30 cars on the track for Q1?

As the rules stand right now only 26 cars will be showing up to the grid... that is if all this political crap gets sorted out.

[FGD]

Okay... the rules have been changed to allow for a maximum 26 car grid. But there may be more than 26 cars fighting to be on the grid next year or in the years to come. Are they really going to put 28 or 30 cars on the track for Q1?

As the rules stand right now only 26 cars will be showing up to the grid... that is if all this political crap gets sorted out.

But there will realistically be 28 or 30 cars next year. Will the FIA simply impose a 13 team limit? Based on what? First come, first served? Performance and results? Team funding? Amount of bribe money paid?

[ISLAMATRON]

Okay... the rules have been changed to allow for a maximum 26 car grid. But there may be more than 26 cars fighting to be on the grid next year or in the years to come. Are they really going to put 28 or 30 cars on the track for Q1?

As the rules stand right now only 26 cars will be showing up to the grid... that is if all this political crap gets sorted out.

But there will realistically be 28 or 30 cars next year. Will the FIA simply impose a 13 team limit? Based on what? First come, first served? Performance and results? Team funding? Amount of bribe money paid?

nope...only 26 cars... yep 13(raised from 12) team limit... probably based on funding and bribe money as you stated.

[Callum]

What do you think will happen if a team is too slow?

In 1995, Fortis where 7 to 9 secs off the peace, they usually finished between 5 to 7 laps down the race winner. However they had good reliability. Because of that disastrous performance 107% rule appeared. In 1996 the car speed improved but reliability went down. Now they were 3 to 4 secs off the peace. If I recall Luca Badoer was close to scoring some points in the Monaco 1996 chaos.

Now, Force India is 2 seconds or less off the peace. A decade ago FI would have been in the middle pack, maybe fighting for points. So I think too slow would be more than 4 seconds off, right?

yeah..i'd say 4+ seconds, any more and i think they could almost be stopped on safety reasons (too much of a speed differential)

[Conceptual]

What do you think will happen if a team is too slow?

In 1995, Fortis where 7 to 9 secs off the peace, they usually finished between 5 to 7 laps down the race winner. However they had good reliability. Because of that disastrous performance 107% rule appeared. In 1996 the car speed improved but reliability went down. Now they were 3 to 4 secs off the peace. If I recall Luca Badoer was close to scoring some points in the Monaco 1996 chaos.

Now, Force India is 2 seconds or less off the peace. A decade ago FI would have been in the middle pack, maybe fighting for points. So I think too slow would be more than 4 seconds off, right?

yeah..i'd say 4+ seconds, any more and i think they could almost be stopped on safety reasons (too much of a speed differential)

That didn't stop the banning of tyre warmers!