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nipo
PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:35 am 
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Does it not sound like the Toyota racing team was given two options (or two obligations, maybe):

1. Get a top line driver
2. Take down the budget cap

"Or get out of F1!" Said the big guns in the boardroom.

So Howett had to fight fiercely against cost-cutting, and later Toyota tried to sign Kimi Raikkonen. When both failed, they had to pull out.

gator
PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:28 am 
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What do you do when you spend more and produce less time and again? Look around and realize, OSB... Other Sports Beckon. They do well in other forms of motorsports. I mean, wouldn't you ditch the ugly stepchild and focus on the breadwinners if it came down to it?

Sad to see another constructor go only to be replaced by another customer team, but maybe the new teams can do a better job with less? Some have to step aside for others to have a chance...



Who here thinks that the anyone would actually use the Toyota engine if given the opportunity next year? My guess is that even if the engine program stuck around, they would practically have to give them away to the customer teams. But again, what does everyone here think?

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bjpower
PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:35 am 
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gator wrote:What do you do when you spend more and produce less time and again? Look around and realize, OSB... Other Sports Beckon. They do well in other forms of motorsports. I mean, wouldn't you ditch the ugly stepchild and focus on the breadwinners if it came down to it?

Sad to see another constructor go only to be replaced by another customer team, but maybe the new teams can do a better job with less? Some have to step aside for others to have a chance...



Who here thinks that the anyone would actually use the Toyota engine if given the opportunity next year? My guess is that even if the engine program stuck around, they would practically have to give them away to the customer teams. But again, what does everyone here think?


depends if they bring in the rule to limit everyone to the same power output.
then you are looking at other engine factors, mpg, cooling, weight etc.
if power is level the toyota may be an option.
but if the power is not limited then no one will use them.

jamsbong
PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:41 am 
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http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/n ... 4345.shtml

Former employees speaking out.

these former employees confirms my speculations and it makes sense. Toyota is the highest spender of all the teams in F1 and they've continued to spend like NO TOMORROW. The end result has never been impressive at anyone's standard. So of course, they pull the plug. any logical person would.

Oh well, goodluck to Trulli, Glock and Kobayashi.

WhiteBlue
PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:29 am 
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It is good to see that insiders start putting the blame on those who really are responsible for the Toyota desaster. F1 is not operating in a vacuum but is a highly competitive economical contest as well. To employ a president over a period of six years, have him spend the highest budget in F1 and never get a single win is beyond comprehension.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Howett

One look at the CV of the guy would tell you that he had no clue of racing. If he had won the championship after three years one could have argued that he was a gifted manager like Flabby. But he didn't even win a race. #-o

I'm wondering how many people must have left in despair for all the sh°t that must have gone down there over the years.

Q: Are you worried you might be a target to kidnapping in Brazil? Ecclestone: "No, because everyone knows nobody would want me back."
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Fil
PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:37 pm 
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Toyota saying goodbye at the factory..



This is great =D>

timbo
PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:59 pm 
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Looks sad...

Confused_Andy
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:04 am 
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Shame, that was actually a nice looking car towards the end. Up there with the brawn imo.

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