lebesset wrote:as I see it they want to sell as a going concern , staying in as an engine supplier
wonder if it is prodrive that they are talking to ?

Or trying to convince Dave Richards to manage the team, simmilar to what he did with Subaru in WRC and what he was gonna do at BAR. Didnt Dave Richards do a little management of the Benneton team in the late 90s early noughties???

But Renault doing a Mercedes and supplying up to 3 teams with engines could be the best idea for them. But i see the Renault marque in F1 for one more year before they sell up and get out of F1 as a team, but not a engine supplyer. Something that Toyota should have thought of as well, as im shure that a Toyota powered USF1 car and posibly a Toyota powered STR with Kimui beside Buemi would have been a marketing masterstroke.

bazanaius wrote:NB McLaren is an entire group of companies - the vast majority of which operate at a considerable profit. whether the F1 team is also making a profit is a question I don't know the answer to, but certainly McLaren's approach to this has been very different to Williams. I've always seen it as developing other bits of the business to pay for the F1 team, whereas Williams IS the F1 team

I *think* this is why Adam Parr has been brought in. I think his remit is to expand the company and give it more stability through technological tieups such as the Qatar deal recently.

Yeah with Parr they finally have a good business man to tie the racing/engineering into the modern era.

As for Renault, they will still be here next year. So no worries for the mean time.

mx_tifosi wrote:As for Renault, they will still be here next year. So no worries for the mean time.

Latest is that they will reconsider at the end of the year .... Kubica must be a bit annoyed having only just signed for them. If they pull out that late he'll struggle to find a seat.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsp ... 345394.stm

Renault always seemed to me to be the leanest of the full manufacturer teams.

I am sure they'll be on the grid in Bahrain...

Toyota operated off $350million a year, Ferarri off $400million a year. Renault in comparison operate off arround $265million a year, whitch is a simmilar ammmount to Red Bull.

Heres the team budgets for 2009:

Ferarri: $404m
BMW Sauber: $387m
McLaren: $377.5m
Toyota: $330m
Renault: $265m
Red Bull: $264.5m
Brawn GP: $146.5m
Williams: $137.5m
Force India: $120m
STR: $112.5m

didn't the final crashgate ruling include a "you can't leave F1 in the next 3 years" condition, or something like that?

Renault's F1 managing Director is quoted as saying:

Caubet re-confirmed to the sports daily L’Equipe: “We have already contracted our drivers, had our budget approved and are enrolled in the world championship. Season 2010 has begun already.”

He added that Renault CEO Carlos Ghosn has also laid out his expectations for Renault’s 2010 season, stating that the team must “returns to a good level”.