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Re: Red Bull RB6

Postby majicmeow » Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:28 pm

Paul,

Not sure about the RB6, but I remember Trulli saying in Melbourne in 08 that the battery of the TF108 was under his seat. Im sure that would be a popular place due to the low CoG and keeping it out of the relative heat.

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Re: Red Bull RB6

Postby PaulB » Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:14 pm

Okay, that's possible. Here a picture of the RB4 Cockpit. Two lines are comeing out of the tube and one from under the seat. At first I thought this is the line to/from the ECU, but that device seemed to be in the right sidepod...

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Re: Red Bull RB6

Postby zgred » Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:02 pm

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Re: Red Bull RB6

Postby Owen.C93 » Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:05 am

Looks like the F-Duct goes around the right-hand side 0_o
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Re: Red Bull RB6

Postby djos » Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:29 am

I wonder if the pic has been mirrored? Im sure i've seen the fuel filler on the left side of the car as well?
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Re: Red Bull RB6

Postby Owen.C93 » Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:38 am

djos wrote:I wonder if the pic has been mirrored? Im sure i've seen the fuel filler on the left side of the car as well?

Label on the mechanics arm seems fine.
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Re: Red Bull RB6

Postby djos » Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:46 am

Owen.C93 wrote:
djos wrote:I wonder if the pic has been mirrored? Im sure i've seen the fuel filler on the left side of the car as well?

Label on the mechanics arm seems fine.


Good pickup. 8)
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Re: Red Bull RB6

Postby Arunas » Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:59 am

Owen.C93 wrote:Looks like the F-Duct goes around the right-hand side 0_o

How can they operate that in RH side?

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Re: Red Bull RB6

Postby PaulB » Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:47 am

Arunas wrote:
Owen.C93 wrote:Looks like the F-Duct goes around the right-hand side 0_o

How can they operate that in RH side?



I also saw that. I'm a little bit irritated. I know, that the controll pipe is left hand sidde in the cockpit. Where do they lead the line from the right to the left hand side?
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Re: Red Bull RB6

Postby Arunas » Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:13 am

zgred wrote:Image

Here is also clearly visible ducting on RH side, can not find pics of LH...

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Re: Red Bull RB6

Postby forty-two » Fri Nov 05, 2010 12:31 pm

PaulB wrote:
Arunas wrote:
Owen.C93 wrote:Looks like the F-Duct goes around the right-hand side 0_o

How can they operate that in RH side?



I also saw that. I'm a little bit irritated. I know, that the controll pipe is left hand sidde in the cockpit. Where do they lead the line from the right to the left hand side?


Possibly what we're seeing here is the DEFAULT aiflow pipe for the fluidic switch, suggesting that RB have two signal inlets for their F-Duct, one which is always piped straight through to the fluidic switch while the other has the "control hole" in the cockpit.

Some drawings in the "Reducing the drag of a two element wing through stall" thread suggested that a fluidic switch can work like this, or with careful tweaking could be made to work without a secondary signal.

Perhaps RB decided it not too much of a loss to have two lots of ductwork instead of develop a single signal fluidic switch?
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Re: Red Bull RB6

Postby gibells » Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:10 pm

It goes to show how having to design it retrospectively compromises the system in comparison to McLaren's. I'd like to see Ferrari's effort.

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Re: Red Bull RB6

Postby auto saibot » Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:54 pm

are those white covers permanent? :?:

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Re: Red Bull RB6

Postby aral » Fri Nov 05, 2010 8:32 pm

auto saibot wrote:are those white covers permanent? :?:

Which white coers? :?: :?: :?:

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Re: Red Bull RB6

Postby PlatinumZealot » Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:15 pm

forty-two wrote:
Possibly what we're seeing here is the DEFAULT aiflow pipe for the fluidic switch, suggesting that RB have two signal inlets for their F-Duct, one which is always piped straight through to the fluidic switch while the other has the "control hole" in the cockpit.


Very much so. Incidentally we already had a discussion on this some months ago in this very same thread. We were discussing a photo in which we can see the default air inlet poking out under the roof of the right radiator duct. It is the first time I am seeing it uncovered though.
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