Pirelli Tests Nov 2010

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Post Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:05 pm

raymondu999 wrote:
mach11 wrote:Pirelli testing: Day 2 line-up

Red Bull-Renault -- Mark Webber
McLaren-Mercedes -- Oliver Turvey
Ferrari -- Fernando Alonso
Mercedes GP -- Michael Schumacher
Renault -- Vitaly Petrov
Williams-Cosworth -- Rubens Barrichello
Force India-Mercedes -- Vitantonio Liuzzi
Sauber-Ferrari -- Sergio Pérez
Toro Rosso-Ferrari --Sébastien Buemi
Lotus-Cosworth -- Jarno Trulli
Hispania-Cosworth -- Pastor Maldonado
Virgin-Cosworth -- Lucas di Grassi


Errrm... where did you get this stuff? RBR is fielding Vettel again. Renault is fielding Kubica. Sauber fielding Koba in the morning, then Perez in the afternoon.



its been a bad week at F1technical for me... :( ... The reference was a F!@#$@@ up website from which I posted it....
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Post Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:48 pm

Jersey Tom wrote:I just find it odd that we have some people clamoring "We need less marbles so there's more area to pass!" and at the same time "Tires should wear faster!"

I don't see why soft tyres should necessarily wear away faster than they have in the past when clever layering techniques could produce tyres that only provide a limited amount of soft rubber on the surface of the tyre. This way, tyre life could be governed by the amount of soft rubber available, rather than how fast it breaks down.

If the softer tyres had a relatively thin coat of soft rubber layered over an ultra hard core construction, the thickness of the soft rubber layer could be adjusted to provide a set amount of life (under specific loading conditions) before the grip they provide drops off like a cliff.

This way, tyre life could be controlled directly, without resorting to extremely fast wearing tyres that produce large volumes of marbles.

Of course, I am no tyre technician and know very little about the complexities of bonding together different rubber compounds. Is an idea like this even feasible, or would it produce some major side effects like the "chunking" that occurred with the 2005 spec "long life" tyres?

To be fair, I'm not even certain that this is the right place for this kind of discussion. If the mods think that we should be discussing this elsewhere then please feel free to move this comment to a new thread.
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Post Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:59 pm

Driver Team Car Time Difference #
1. Alonso Ferrari F10 1:40.529 105 pit
2. Schumacher Mercedes GP W01 1:40.685 + 0.156 74 pit
3. Vettel Red Bull Racing RB6 1:40.825 + 0.296 66 pit
4. Barrichello Williams FW32 1:41.294 + 0.765 100 pit
5. Kubica Renault R30 1:41.614 + 1.085 72 pit
6. Paffett McLaren MP4-25 1:41.622 + 1.093 31 pit
7. Turvey McLaren MP4-25 1:41.740 + 1.211 31 pit
8. di Resta Force India VJM-03 1:41.869 + 1.340 35 pit
9. Kobayashi Sauber C29 1:42.110 + 1.581 43 pit
10. Buemi Toro Rosso STR5 1:42.145 + 1.616 79 pit
11. Liuzzi Force India VJM-03 1:42.416 + 1.887 27 pit
12. Perez Sauber C29 1:42.777 + 2.248 25 pit
13. Trulli Lotus F1 T127 1:44.521 + 3.992 67 pit
14. Maldonado HRT F1 Team F110 1:44.768 + 4.239 65 pit
15. Glock Virgin VR-01 1:44.783 + 4.254 82 pi
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Post Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:26 pm

so MS got the chassis upgrade installed overnight :lol: :lol: I´m looking forward to his comments and how they compare to Rosberg speech... :roll:
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Post Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:20 pm

marcush. wrote:so MS got the chassis upgrade installed overnight :lol: :lol: I´m looking forward to his comments and how they compare to Rosberg speech... :roll:


Cautiously optimistic Marcush.

As I wrote on the W01 thread yesterday, I was dissapointed with Rosbergs comments about the tyres "not helping Mercedes". Its not the first time this guy has come across a bit dim in interviews.

Schumacher has said he is cautiously optimistic with the tyres. With the data accrued he reckons Mercedes could be in decent shape. It shoot Rosbergs comments out the water and makes me happier going into the winter break that Mercedes know where they are heading.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88437
More could have been done.
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Post Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:13 pm

to me Schumachers comments are a sign of him being comfortable with the direction things are taking towards the end of the season ,whereas Rosberg was in reflection way too optimistic last year and this may have caused his new pessimistic approach for the new year..
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Post Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:32 pm

in one side , i understand Rosberg frustration , he want to build a name on Schumacher back , to be the guy who forced Schumacher to retire , he also underestimate Schumacher , i'm sorry for him the next year will be hard , i'm already waiting for the comment about favoritism in the team . and i'm pretty sure that a lot of other drivers will play the same tactics to push the Pirelli to be closer to the Bridges , to avoid a 43 years old domination , which may ruin their status of future champions.
i think that Pirelli have made the right choice , a compound suitable for all drivers style . the future will tell us ,.......
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Post Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:55 pm

ahmedvortex wrote:'m already waiting for the comment about favoritism in the team

So am I. And when it comes, as I think Rosberg is likely to say something even if it is on whim, It will be interesting to see how Mercedes handle it.
More could have been done.
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Post Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:53 pm

FYI That time up there for Michael was disallowed as apparently he cut a chicane on that lap.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88436

The "correct" time puts him about the same as Rosberg yesterday.
RacingManiac
 
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Post Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:13 pm

wish he would make up his mind ...or maybe he had his knuckles rapped by uncle ross


http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88439
audifan
 
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Post Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:23 pm

audifan wrote:wish he would make up his mind ...or maybe he had his knuckles rapped by uncle ross


http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88439


:lol:
My point exactly(Mercedes W01 thread).

Rosberg doesnt seem to know what to think. The tyres wont help, now it looks promising, tomorrow who knows?
Alot of his comments this year have also been of the headscratching nature.
More could have been done.
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