Renault R31

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Post Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:57 pm

Neno wrote:
Florio wrote:Memory permitting I heard McLaren started designing the MP4-23 in December 2006. Well, what they could design without the need of regulation conformation. But yeah the cars take years to develop. I wonder how Renault will progress now with Bob Bell gone.


I heard that Bob Bell was quite careful with the rules of car design. did not want to go across the border rules, or "gray zone". This is one reason why is Bell released.

While Allison wanted to exploit the holes in regulations, more than is allowed. However this is good news for Renault, could see something new next year on the car.


I've heard that too. I remember him being extremely angry at the F-Duct this year in Bahrain. Was it Allison or Bell in charge of the aero development this year? The Renaults front wing's were brilliant.
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Post Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:58 pm

Florio wrote:
Neno wrote:
Florio wrote:Memory permitting I heard McLaren started designing the MP4-23 in December 2006. Well, what they could design without the need of regulation conformation. But yeah the cars take years to develop. I wonder how Renault will progress now with Bob Bell gone.


I heard that Bob Bell was quite careful with the rules of car design. did not want to go across the border rules, or "gray zone". This is one reason why is Bell released.

While Allison wanted to exploit the holes in regulations, more than is allowed. However this is good news for Renault, could see something new next year on the car.


I've heard that too. I remember him being extremely angry at the F-Duct this year in Bahrain. Was it Allison or Bell in charge of the aero development this year? The Renaults front wing's were brilliant.


i dont now, but bell's leaving is good sign for renault. bell is --- up last 3 cars and i think one man (allison) make difference. just know that the new car work from the beginning and we will see some new designs of the car. I know that Tim Densham (Renault's designer) will have a free hand under the leadership of Allison (now tehnical director). Allison will try to use all holes in regulations. i think last 3 year Renault was too soft in making fast car and now they want tryed something different.
Neno
 
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Post Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:31 pm

Interesting info from RF1 web page:
“At the moment the aero team is working on the package that will go on the car for the first race in Bahrain,” explains Technical Director James Allison. “We’ve already defined the geometries we will use for the launch car, but the wind tunnel work for race one will continue well into the New Year, especially for the parts that can be made at the last minute.”
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Post Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:48 pm

I have just moved more than 2 pages of posts to the Lotus Renault thread:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9250&p=213767#p213767

Can we please stick to the R31 in here? Any off-topic posts in the car threads can and will be moved or deleted without further notice.
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Post Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:07 pm

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Kubica tries to adapt to the new chair :P

Probably first photo of R31 ;D
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Post Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:26 pm

skinny airbox it seems in that pic
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Post Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:20 pm

Bigger:

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cravenciak
 
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Post Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:47 pm

very skinny... is that a real chasis or a mockup?
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Post Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:45 pm

Goran2812 wrote:very skinny... is that a real chasis or a mockup?

"As the new car nears completion, one of the final pieces of the jigsaw is fitting the driver in the car. And that’s exactly what has been happening at Enstone today as Robert met with his engineers for a preliminary seat-fit in the mock-up chassis."
...
"He had a chat with the guys for a progress report and inspected the latest version of the model. As you’d expect, photos were strictly off limits"
Neno
 
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Post Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:37 pm

Skinny indeed... it's a moke up but it's identical to the chassis, RF1PP said it. He also said that he took many photos but he chosen only this one because it doesn't reveal much from the car, unlike the other photos.
Blackout
 
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Post Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:24 pm

wesley123 wrote:skinny airbox it seems in that pic


Bob just has a big head, it's a normal sized airbox.
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dren
 
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Post Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:37 pm

Compare with R30. R31 airbox looks more skinny.

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madly
 
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Post Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:35 pm

Indeed
Not very precise but...

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Blackout
 
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Post Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:55 pm

The back shell of the airbox is just removed that's all.
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Post Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:00 pm

What would the engine cover change ? nothing, I think
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