Best passing manoeuvre

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Post Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:22 pm

Some nice overtake from Schumacher at the start of the European GP:

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Post Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:01 am

To me, a great pass has to be set up from many turns away, and it must be premeditated, deliberate car control, something like a chess game. Not just something that happens and you react to it. That's just me though.
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Post Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:43 pm

i've always liked this one. montoya on schumi at the bus stop, 2004
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Post Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:25 pm

Schumacher - Fyling Finn, SPA-2000, was truly an epic. For me, It was one the best moment of the F1 till now. =D>
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Post Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:46 pm

beelsebob wrote:
Traction wrote:Wheel to wheel at over 300 kms p/h coming into a tight corner at the end of a long straight, both drivers not wanting to give an inch? Makes a good one for me. What I liked about it is that you can see Senna looking over on two occasions while Mansell is completely focused on the corner, almost as if Senna blinked first and hence lost the corner. 8)

I don't really see how it's more exciting than Webber on Schumacher or Button on Schumacher from last race.


I don´t really see how you rate DRS overtakings as high as real overtakings.
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Post Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:57 am

n smikle wrote:To me, a great pass has to be set up from many turns away, and it must be premeditated, deliberate car control, something like a chess game. Not just something that happens and you react to it. That's just me though.


How very true, then it becomes more than a physical manoeuver and becomes a synthesis between art and war. Just like watching fencers parry and thrust, drivers do the same, attempting to force their opponent into the slightest mistake so they can capture an advantage, and turn it into a pass. For me, it's freaking fun and amazing to be witness to such motorized combat, performed with skill and brains, courage and strength of will.

Passes are memorable, but sometimes a great defence against such an eventuality is noteworthy on it's own. Senna is famous for many things, but one notch in his belt is his historic defence against Mansell to capture the 1992 Monaco race. Mansell should have been able to pass Senna, but was unable because of a heroic defence.

In this post-race interview, you can see two spent warriors, two great drivers who absolutely gave it their all, in a great performance.
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Post Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:50 am



this one is mirrored but it's ok
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Post Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:13 am

mep wrote:Schumacher vs Alonso Monaco 2010.

it takes mad skills to pass someone not even racing because you're the only one that forgot we're under the safety car all through the last lap of the race.
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Post Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:56 pm

This:


And this:


Obviously this:


Epic race start to finish:
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Post Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:53 pm

DaveKillens wrote:
n smikle wrote:To me, a great pass has to be set up from many turns away, and it must be premeditated, deliberate car control, something like a chess game. Not just something that happens and you react to it. That's just me though.


How very true, then it becomes more than a physical manoeuver and becomes a synthesis between art and war. Just like watching fencers parry and thrust, drivers do the same, attempting to force their opponent into the slightest mistake so they can capture an advantage, and turn it into a pass. For me, it's freaking fun and amazing to be witness to such motorized combat, performed with skill and brains, courage and strength of will.


This is part true, but a larger part is being able to judge and feel where the grip is, how much longer you can brake and how early you can get the power down compared to an opponent at any given part of a race. Sometimes an overtake is great because it's so unexpected, seeing a car go clean around the outside for example.
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Post Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:52 pm

Sebp wrote:This:


And this:


Obviously this:


Epic race start to finish:


That second one- Johnathon Ross? :?
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Post Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:55 pm

Muulka wrote:That second one- Johnathon Ross? :?


No, it's Johnaton Woss. :lol:
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Post Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:18 pm

andrew wrote:
Muulka wrote:That second one- Johnathon Ross? :?


No, it's Johnaton Woss. :lol:

With Aywtons, McLawens, Pwosts, Fewwawys and ovewtaking in the centwe of attention Forwmula1 waces must have been hawd to wewview. He did manage to pwonounce Briatori somehow!
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Post Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:51 pm

I'm waiting for him to recite this popular children's nursery rhyme:

Wound and wound the wugged wok the wagged wascal wan, how many aws are in that, tell me if you can. :lol:

We need a thread dedicated to F1 related words that Johnothan Ross would have difficulty saying!
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Post Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:27 pm

andrew wrote:I'm waiting for him to recite this popular children's nursery rhyme:

Wound and wound the wugged wok the wagged wascal wan, how many aws are in that, tell me if you can. :lol:

We need a thread dedicated to F1 related words that Johnothan Ross would have difficulty saying!


What, like Dwag Weduction Sytem, fwilling wace or Gwan Pwi?
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