ringo wrote:
no major cooling exits as yet. It's in the no compromise form at the moment.
If you notice from the top view the side pod inlet slant forward. I have tested this, (with a proper intake hole on a different model) and it seems to produce down-force over the lip of the inlet.
This is a first in F1.There is a small drag penalty however.
Most teams use this area differently. Mclaren use it to slot the front of their side pod. Ferrari and renault have their crash structure in it as this area is not restricted by the regulation to have a min. 75mm radius for one close curve.
I'm using it as an area to extend bottom of the sidepod and creat some force.
inspired by the Mig "fox hound"
and f22 "raptor"
just flipped upside down
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Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:39 am
Sorry to bring up something so old but this idea comes from trackmania nations.
I've found a way of ducting exhaust right to the diffuser edge like in 2011 and created a new wheel fastener that could allow sub 2 second pitstops see them here --> My 2013 F1 Concept Project
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MIKEY_!
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Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:41 pm
MIKEY_! wrote:Sorry to bring up something so old but this idea comes from trackmania nations.
I don't know what the hell is that.
I don't steal ideas; sorry.
Better you post a link as to what you are talking about.
This was designed and tested, and it has a quantified advantage.
There will be no copying of ideas in this thread. All ideas are original.
I'd like to see this track mania thing though.
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ringo
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Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:43 pm
matt21 wrote:Do you think, the fins will comply with the bodywork rules regarding minimum radius of curves?
Yes. That area on the splitter is not restricted by minimum radius.
The vertical transition on the reference plane though is restricted. It can't be finned, though it can have a flat plate there.
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ringo
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Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:03 pm
Would it be sufficient to cool the KERS with the new requirement to have to run on solely electric power in the pits?
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Giblet
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Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:57 am
Busted... sorry not saying you copied just coincidence but interesting anyway. Since someone else thought of it as well helps to say its a good idea. Course trackmania nations is probably not CFD tested
I've found a way of ducting exhaust right to the diffuser edge like in 2011 and created a new wheel fastener that could allow sub 2 second pitstops see them here --> My 2013 F1 Concept Project
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MIKEY_!
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Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:20 pm
That??!! 
No, i really think you're here with intentions to slander.
Sorry that's not even close. That is a vertical opening and doesn't work the same way.
I was expecting some logical reply and this guy comes in with this foolishness.
This is ridicoulous. That's weak sauce.
That sidepod is a completely different principle, and is more about style than anything else. Look on the outside vertical part.
The secondly realize that the opening is basically the floor of the car so the behaivior is completely different.
Busted?
Dude ...
what is your purpose in this thread?
You know when people don't know the first thing about fluids, but they're quick to to offend and make points that are neither here no there.
Close but no cigar. Keep looking around to find something that doesn't exist elsewhere.
No, i really think you're here with intentions to slander.
Sorry that's not even close. That is a vertical opening and doesn't work the same way.
I was expecting some logical reply and this guy comes in with this foolishness.
This is ridicoulous. That's weak sauce.
That sidepod is a completely different principle, and is more about style than anything else. Look on the outside vertical part.
The secondly realize that the opening is basically the floor of the car so the behaivior is completely different.
Busted?
Dude ...
what is your purpose in this thread?
You know when people don't know the first thing about fluids, but they're quick to to offend and make points that are neither here no there.
Close but no cigar. Keep looking around to find something that doesn't exist elsewhere.
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ringo
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Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:38 pm
MIKEY_! wrote:Busted... sorry not saying you copied just coincidence but interesting anyway. Since someone else thought of it as well helps to say its a good idea. Course trackmania nations is probably not CFD tested
It's not the same. *head bash*
That thing creates a vortex at the side pod point and the barge board point.
Completely different concept.
The inlet is also a straight through, no curve like a modern F1 car.
It's also from a game, so it's aerodynamics can be questioned.
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ringo
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Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:41 am
Dude ease up its just a casual observation i'm not having a go at you and not sure why anyone would want to.
Like i said.
It's also from a game, so it's aerodynamics can be questioned.
Like i said.
I've found a way of ducting exhaust right to the diffuser edge like in 2011 and created a new wheel fastener that could allow sub 2 second pitstops see them here --> My 2013 F1 Concept Project
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MIKEY_!
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Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:03 pm
On a positive note, it has given me a new game to play when I want to chuck around a car that defies the laws of physics ... it isn't bad, in a ludicrous kind of way
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gridwalker
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Sat Sep 03, 2011 2:04 pm
MIKEY_! wrote:Dude ease up its just a casual observation i'm not having a go at you and not sure why anyone would want to.It's also from a game, so it's aerodynamics can be questioned.
Like i said.
I over reacted there.
But when i say all ideas are original and only original, it looks like i'm guilty of lying even before evidence is placed on the thread.
I have no reason to fabircate lies. If there is some influence from other designs, you'll see them posted here.
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ringo
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Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:40 am
Na its ok man I over did it to. I can't expect people to go around making sure something has not been done before when they have as many ideas as you.
I've found a way of ducting exhaust right to the diffuser edge like in 2011 and created a new wheel fastener that could allow sub 2 second pitstops see them here --> My 2013 F1 Concept Project
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