Indian GP 2011 - Buddh

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Post Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:24 am

komninosm wrote:I don't think you got anywhere, he didn't change his position nor you.

We didn't need to – we now understand why each other thinks the collision was $x's fault, and we can discuss any future incidents more sanely now. Just because no one was battered into changing their mind, doesn't mean it wasn't a productive discussion.
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Post Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:46 am

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Post Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:57 am

beelsebob wrote:
Crucial_Xtreme wrote:Seems like most people inside the sport of F1 don't agree with the stewards decision.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/formula ... 569488.stm


"You could argue all day about the rights and wrongs of the latest crash involving Lewis Hamilton and Felipe Massa but it was a 50-50 incident in my opinion," he wrote in his latest column on the BBC F1 website.

Most people being Webber and Coulthard?


to be fair, i think it was either Coulthard or Brundle said that they got a plane back containing alot of staff from the teams, and alot of them said they didn't understand why Massa got a penalty.
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Post Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:22 pm

beelsebob wrote:
Autosport Magazine wrote:Kerbs at the Buddh International Circuit are to be revised after Ferrari's Felipe Massa suffered two suspension failures during the Indian Grand Prix weekend.

LAAAAME!



laame ?

no , pathetic !

personally I loved those kerbs , didn't cause any problems did they
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Post Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:42 pm

I agree it's lame. But you're not quite accurate there. Felipe's suspension failures both came from the kerbs
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Post Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:47 pm

raymondu999 wrote:I agree it's lame. But you're not quite accurate there. Felipe's suspension failures both came from the kerbs

I agree, but your way of phrasing it is off, instead, "Felipe's suspension failures both came from him driving the car in a way that caused lots of load to go through the suspension". If you crash into a barrier at Monaco, do you say "his suspension collapse came from the armco"?
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Post Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:05 pm

Well yeah, but indirectly it was due to the kerbs too.
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Post Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:54 pm

I think we are all agreed that those kerbs added an element of peril to focus the drivers' minds, and Massa failed to maintain enough focus which resulted in damaged suspension.
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Post Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:14 pm

richard_leeds wrote:I think we are all agreed that those kerbs added an element of peril to focus the drivers' minds, and Massa failed to maintain enough focus which resulted in damaged suspension.

My fear with them is how long until they send a car airborne
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Post Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:24 pm

flynfrog wrote:
richard_leeds wrote:I think we are all agreed that those kerbs added an element of peril to focus the drivers' minds, and Massa failed to maintain enough focus which resulted in damaged suspension.

My fear with them is how long until they send a car airborne

Massa hit them about as hard as it's possible to hit them, and no airborneness really happened, You need a shallower aproach to launch a car.
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Post Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:22 pm

beelsebob wrote:
flynfrog wrote:
richard_leeds wrote:I think we are all agreed that those kerbs added an element of peril to focus the drivers' minds, and Massa failed to maintain enough focus which resulted in damaged suspension.

My fear with them is how long until they send a car airborne

Massa hit them about as hard as it's possible to hit them, and no airborneness really happened, You need a shallower aproach to launch a car.

I was thinking more of hitting them more head on perpendicular to the track.
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Post Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:41 pm

flynfrog wrote:I was thinking more of hitting them more head on perpendicular to the track.

I guess I might believe that might launch them, but I'm struggling to imagine a situation with a car carrying significant speed in that direction.
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Post Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:48 pm

beelsebob wrote:
flynfrog wrote:I was thinking more of hitting them more head on perpendicular to the track.

I guess I might believe that might launch them, but I'm struggling to imagine a situation with a car carrying significant speed in that direction.

a slight tap in the corner before the car snaps back the other way. Not saying its that common but I think there would be a safer way to accomplish the same thing.
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Post Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:57 pm

Also I hope they dont plan to race bikes on the track those kerbs would be lethal
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Post Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:24 am

There's plenty of run off in that area so it wouldn't be a massive issue if a car got some air. It's a hell of a lot safer than the curbs in Singapore, that's for sure!
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