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[zyphro]

What about DDRS? looks sorta fishy the number of sensors.

Doubtful; how do they intend to get a DDRS solution for that car? (Think about the tubing).

Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm an amateur .

[Owen.C93]

Thanks for the explanations about the sensor rig.

What's odd is that the front wing is from early pre-season before they updated it at the final test. Seems strange to run such an old wing.

Perhaps it's because they've had to put so many holes in the wing to fit the sensor rig that they didn't want to mess up their latest version. The sensors probably corrupt the airflow so a small aerodynamic diasadvantage might not matter. I guess they are testing the construction which is likely similar between the wings.

Good spot, looking at other shots they used the updated wing without the new cascades for normal running.

[n smikle]

What about DDRS? looks sorta fishy the number of sensors.

Doubtful; how do they intend to get a DDRS solution for that car? (Think about the tubing).

Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm an amateur .

You are right.

[Coefficient]

Thanks for the explanations about the sensor rig.

What's odd is that the front wing is from early pre-season before they updated it at the final test. Seems strange to run such an old wing.

Perhaps it's because they've had to put so many holes in the wing to fit the sensor rig that they didn't want to mess up their latest version. The sensors probably corrupt the airflow so a small aerodynamic diasadvantage might not matter. I guess they are testing the construction which is likely similar between the wings.

Good spot, looking at other shots they used the updated wing without the new cascades for normal running.

Maybe they don't want the test drivers wiping the new wings off in an accident due to being rusty?

[Gridlock]

No sign of any decent inlets forward of the cockpit either, contrary to the bulkhead double scoop on the W03 that only seems to appear at race weekends. So if AMG are running a switched FW stalling system, McLaren aren't copying them here.

The nosecone-mounted sideways-pointed sensor seems big enough to be a high frame rate or at least hi res camera, which would be an interesting video to watch..

[silversurf3r]

What do you guys make of Sauber,Force India and Williams converging on the Mclaren style exhaust? Surely it's a good sign, I think it is probably the best solution for this year. But considering that the Mclaren side pods were designed specifically with the exhaust in mind to create downwash surely they have the optimimal solution. Meanwhile other teams bolt on the exhaust housing and gain some benefit but not the full effect.

[Owen.C93]

What do you guys make of Sauber,Force India and Williams converging on the Mclaren style exhaust? Surely it's a good sign, I think it is probably the best solution for this year. But considering that the Mclaren side pods were designed specifically with the exhaust in mind to create downwash surely they have the optimimal solution. Meanwhile other teams bolt on the exhaust housing and gain some benefit but not the full effect.

You'd think with the best exhaust solution on the grid they'd be in much better shape than they are now. But yes their system will be most refined and hopefully more scope for improvements as they are 1 step ahead of everyone else.

[silversurf3r]

What do you guys make of Sauber,Force India and Williams converging on the Mclaren style exhaust? Surely it's a good sign, I think it is probably the best solution for this year. But considering that the Mclaren side pods were designed specifically with the exhaust in mind to create downwash surely they have the optimimal solution. Meanwhile other teams bolt on the exhaust housing and gain some benefit but not the full effect.

You'd think with the best exhaust solution on the grid they'd be in much better shape than they are now. But yes their system will be most refined and hopefully more scope for improvements as they are 1 step ahead of everyone else.

You'd like to think so but it's not as big a differentiator as last year, without the engine maps. Oh I also should add the Torro Rosso to that list as I've just seen their version.

[atanatizante]

New:
- monkey seat
- diffuser
- (probably a new) connection between the end plate and the brake drum flaps

[SiLo]

What do you guys make of Sauber,Force India and Williams converging on the Mclaren style exhaust? Surely it's a good sign, I think it is probably the best solution for this year. But considering that the Mclaren side pods were designed specifically with the exhaust in mind to create downwash surely they have the optimimal solution. Meanwhile other teams bolt on the exhaust housing and gain some benefit but not the full effect.

You'd think with the best exhaust solution on the grid they'd be in much better shape than they are now. But yes their system will be most refined and hopefully more scope for improvements as they are 1 step ahead of everyone else.

Strategy. They've ruined almost all their races with a crap strategy and/or bad pit stops.

[astracrazy]

+1...

[Owen.C93]

What do you guys make of Sauber,Force India and Williams converging on the Mclaren style exhaust? Surely it's a good sign, I think it is probably the best solution for this year. But considering that the Mclaren side pods were designed specifically with the exhaust in mind to create downwash surely they have the optimimal solution. Meanwhile other teams bolt on the exhaust housing and gain some benefit but not the full effect.

You'd think with the best exhaust solution on the grid they'd be in much better shape than they are now. But yes their system will be most refined and hopefully more scope for improvements as they are 1 step ahead of everyone else.

Strategy. They've ruined almost all their races with a crap strategy and/or bad pit stops.

They haven't been that fast though. It seems everyone plans to make a big step with a new exhaust while McLaren will just have small improvements, relatively I mean.

[zyphro]

They haven't been that fast though. It seems everyone plans to make a big step with a new exhaust while McLaren will just have small improvements, relatively I mean.

Ross Brawn also said, he's not convinced it's the best possible solution.

[zyphro]

... Meanwhile other teams bolt on the exhaust housing and gain some benefit but not the full effect.

That's dependant on how other cars were designed.

Other cars will find, other exhaust solutions will work better optimally for the setup of their car.

RB also said, he isn't convinced that the Macca solution is the single best possible solution.

Does anyone know the real benefit of such an exhaust upgrade?

[hardingfv32]

Does anyone know the real benefit of such an exhaust upgrade?

You make humor, Yes!

We have no clue to the real benefit of any of this year's exhaust systems.

Brian