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Post Mon May 21, 2012 10:16 am

ivand911 wrote:It is clear they never raced the McL exhaust they tried in Mugello. But ,still their new Spain exhaust is very surprising, they didn't tested it in Mugello I think? But, they bolted it and it is working. I guess McL variant was not successful.


They raced the same exhaust in spain as in China/Bahrain/Malaysia
Huntresa
 
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Post Mon May 21, 2012 10:51 am

Huntresa wrote:
ivand911 wrote:It is clear they never raced the McL exhaust they tried in Mugello. But ,still their new Spain exhaust is very surprising, they didn't tested it in Mugello I think? But, they bolted it and it is working. I guess McL variant was not successful.


They raced the same exhaust in spain as in China/Bahrain/Malaysia

Good to know. Here in China race picture, Bruno is using two different exhaust on both sides?
http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/gall ... ce/265.jpg
ivand911
 
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Post Mon May 21, 2012 11:19 am

The right side is their "default" exhaust seen since preseason
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=11561&start=195#p306218

Left side is their hot weather configuration, also seen in preseason testing
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=11561&start=300#p317582

Maybe they still need time to sort out the new MacExhaust.
joseff
 
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Post Mon May 21, 2012 11:20 am

ivand911 wrote:Good to know. Here in China race picture, Bruno is using two different exhaust on both sides?
http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/gall ... ce/265.jpg


Interesting picture. That is definitely two different solutions right there. The launch spec and the newer spec(no McLaren style) Was this picture from the race or from FP or Quali?
Crucial_Xtreme
 
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Post Mon May 21, 2012 11:41 am

Crucial_Xtreme wrote:
ivand911 wrote:Good to know. Here in China race picture, Bruno is using two different exhaust on both sides?
http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/gall ... ce/265.jpg


Interesting picture. That is definitely two different solutions right there. The launch spec and the newer spec(no McLaren style) Was this picture from the race or from FP or Quali?


Can it be from Quali? I dont know the rules but i just assumed the car most be the same on both sides. Also tjhe image can be a mirror, or i mean 2 images put together.
Huntresa
 
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Post Mon May 21, 2012 11:52 am

Huntresa wrote:I just assumed the car most be the same on both sides

That is a brave thing to say around here : don't even hint at asymmetry, or you'll have everyone shouting about it!

McLaren are a particular magnet for the fans of Asymmetrical aero :
Image
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gridwalker
 
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Post Mon May 21, 2012 3:10 pm

^ That's just a reflection / shadow from a tree or something...
Mandrake
 
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Post Mon May 21, 2012 3:19 pm

Nope. Look for any other angle. The 2009 McLaren was assymetrical for just about every race
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raymondu999
 
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Post Mon May 21, 2012 3:52 pm

raymondu999 wrote:Nope. Look for any other angle. The 2009 McLaren was assymetrical for just about every race


Dude, I think you'll find he was joking!!! Good lord you lot are too serious at times!
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Post Mon May 21, 2012 4:16 pm

Crucial_Xtreme wrote:
ivand911 wrote:Good to know. Here in China race picture, Bruno is using two different exhaust on both sides?
http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/gall ... ce/265.jpg


Interesting picture. That is definitely two different solutions right there. The launch spec and the newer spec(no McLaren style) Was this picture from the race or from FP or Quali?

It is from the race day according to the website:
http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/gall ... ace-12.php
ivand911
 
Joined: 11 Mar 2012

Post Mon May 21, 2012 5:14 pm

ivand911 wrote:
Crucial_Xtreme wrote:
ivand911 wrote:Good to know. Here in China race picture, Bruno is using two different exhaust on both sides?
http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/gall ... ce/265.jpg


Interesting picture. That is definitely two different solutions right there. The launch spec and the newer spec(no McLaren style) Was this picture from the race or from FP or Quali?

It is from the race day according to the website:
http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/gall ... ace-12.php


But is it 1 image? and not 2 put together?
Huntresa
 
Joined: 3 Dec 2011

Post Mon May 21, 2012 6:05 pm

Huntresa wrote:
But is it 1 image? and not 2 put together?


I would say definitely not. NextGen Auto doesn't do that to pictures and I've found some others that show they were running the Australia spec in the China race, at least on one side.

Image

Image

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Crucial_Xtreme
 
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Post Mon May 21, 2012 6:18 pm

What would they find out with running one of each ? I mean it cant be as simple as running both at the same time would show what 2 of them would prdocue
Huntresa
 
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Post Mon May 21, 2012 7:15 pm

Huntresa wrote:What would they find out with running one of each ? I mean it cant be as simple as running both at the same time would show what 2 of them would produce

First, I was thinking that maybe they were forced to do it on Bruno car. Now, I see that Maldonado is doing it too. So , I have no idea. Maybe something with rotation on the track? Maybe have to do something with McLaren example shown on page 34?
ivand911
 
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Post Mon May 21, 2012 8:06 pm

Maybe additional cooling is required for the equipment packaged within that sidepod?
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