Marussia MR01 Cosworth

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Post Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:23 pm

Owen.C93 wrote:I'd define the McLaren style exhaust as a pod that sticks out from the sidepod with air flow underneath. This is more integrated into the sidepod with a bit of a ramp so more Sauber like rather than McLaren. Sounds like they really need a decent step forward.


Yeah I'm with you on the differences between the two. The ramp just doesn't look as "full fledged" as RB or Saubers did but it's hard to tell. But I agree more of a RB style.

They definitely need a step forward. Caterham is targeting a good step forward so it would be good for Marussia if they followed. I'm not sure what HRT has in store for SS. Wonder what other upgrades are coming on the MR01 this weekend. Have to think it will be bit of a sour weekend for them regardless with their heads at the hospital and bodies at the track.
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Post Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:49 pm

I'm actually going to the backstage event their hosting tomorrow so was hoping to glean some more info on the upgrade (can but try)

Sorry just had an email through saying the events been cancelled due to the Maria's accident
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Post Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:04 pm

Crucial_Xtreme wrote:Wonder what other upgrades are coming on the MR01 this weekend.


Rear wing, floor & side pods.
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Post Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:55 pm

Picture of their new exhaust system.

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Post Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:38 am

Wow, the coke bottle area on this Marrussia is really cluttered. Do they have an enormous gearbox? We know the Cosworth is not the daintiest engine but Williams managed to have a cleaner rear end last year with their MotoGP gearbox. This looks like a 2009 design if not earlier.
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Post Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:25 pm

Coefficient wrote:Wow, the coke bottle area on this Marrussia is really cluttered. Do they have an enormous gearbox? We know the Cosworth is not the daintiest engine but Williams managed to have a cleaner rear end last year with their MotoGP gearbox. This looks like a 2009 design if not earlier.

It's a ancient X-trac isn't it?
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Post Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:32 pm

Isnt it a McLaren gearbox since this season?
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Post Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:37 pm

new box ,as it has pullrod suspension...question is did they retain the xtrac internals(they did their own casing anyways from the word go,right?)
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Post Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:43 pm

beelsebob wrote:
Coefficient wrote:Wow, the coke bottle area on this Marrussia is really cluttered. Do they have an enormous gearbox? We know the Cosworth is not the daintiest engine but Williams managed to have a cleaner rear end last year with their MotoGP gearbox. This looks like a 2009 design if not earlier.

It's a ancient X-trac isn't it?


The X-Track 1066 gearbox is based on technology from 2004s BAR Honda and the 2007-2008 Williams/Toyota cars. The internals are updated from 2004 and the hydrolic/powershift system is based on the what the Toyota/Williams cars used in 07 and 08. Its a good gearbox, better than what many teams used in early 2009, but the technology has now risen to such a level that the gearbox that the Marussia has is outdated now by a clear 2 to 3 years. McLaren have put 10 guys into Marussia to help them with the transmission design and implementation, so it is alot less cluttered than 2011 however it still is the worst gearbox in F1. Even HRT has the current Williams gearbox that is so tiny it mau not even be there, however they cant take advantage of it aerodynamically.
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Post Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:40 pm

ESPImperium wrote:
beelsebob wrote:
Coefficient wrote:Wow, the coke bottle area on this Marrussia is really cluttered. Do they have an enormous gearbox? We know the Cosworth is not the daintiest engine but Williams managed to have a cleaner rear end last year with their MotoGP gearbox. This looks like a 2009 design if not earlier.

It's a ancient X-trac isn't it?


The X-Track 1066 gearbox is based on technology from 2004s BAR Honda and the 2007-2008 Williams/Toyota cars. The internals are updated from 2004 and the hydrolic/powershift system is based on the what the Toyota/Williams cars used in 07 and 08. Its a good gearbox, better than what many teams used in early 2009, but the technology has now risen to such a level that the gearbox that the Marussia has is outdated now by a clear 2 to 3 years. McLaren have put 10 guys into Marussia to help them with the transmission design and implementation, so it is alot less cluttered than 2011 however it still is the worst gearbox in F1. Even HRT has the current Williams gearbox that is so tiny it mau not even be there, however they cant take advantage of it aerodynamically.


no one from mclaren is helping marussia.....again misinformation from you...
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Post Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:14 pm

no one from mclaren is helping marussia.....again misinformation from you...


Didnt we earlier in a marussia thread get evidence of ppl from mclaren working at marussia?
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Post Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:56 pm

Huntresa wrote:
no one from mclaren is helping marussia.....again misinformation from you...


Didnt we earlier in a marussia thread get evidence of ppl from mclaren working at marussia?


Yep. I work for one of the Marussia suppliers. I asked as a direct question and it was confirmed to me by Marussia personnel on pre-season factory visit. It was the same day the car was down at the McLaren windtunnel.
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Post Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:32 am

Not got a picture, but when Pic stopped on track it looked like a new nosecone, a bit bulgier underneath?
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Post Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:56 am

JackHammer wrote:Not got a picture, but when Pic stopped on track it looked like a new nosecone, a bit bulgier underneath?


I also got that impression
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Post Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:24 pm

Renalt/Force India style nose hump. Looks new to me.

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