olefud wrote:It appears that there’s agreement that tail-hung-out racing is unlikely in F-1. It’s just faster to be tidy. Yet on dirt tracks sprint and late models as well as rallies they’re running full opposite lock and driving with the throttle. Would they be faster if they cleaned up their act? Is F-1 racing of years past analogous?
Don't think they would be faster like that, no. Completely different animals. For one, there are race series in which there is an aero advantage to running at large yaw angles, whereas I would venture a guess that a F1 aero map of late would generally be poorer with large yaw.
Rally is itself an interesting beast, and RC vehicle dynamics is something I've wanted to dabble in for a while. To wager a big guess I'd stab at saying there are probably advantages to operating at high sideslip angle in certain situations there as well, though not for aero and perhaps more to do with thrust vectoring.
Just_a_fan wrote:Two concepts
1950s = cross ply
2012 = radial
Ehhh I wouldn't go that far. Belted vs not belted though, sure.
bill shoe wrote:As tires become grippier they tend to developing peak grip at lower slip angles.
Not necessarily true. Though "grippier" is a big vague of a term, and "grip" is one of my least favorite words in general.
Don't know if this can be explained with theory
It's not so much theory that explains it as design intent.
Grip is a four letter word.
2 is the new #1.