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Post Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:39 am

14.3 Rear view mirrors:
14.3.2 The reflective surface of each mirror must be at least 150mm wide, this being maintained over a height of at least 50mm. Additionally, each corner may have a radius no greater than 10mm.
14.3.3 All parts of the rear view mirrors, including their housings and mountings, must be situated between 250mm and 500mm from the car centre line and between 550mm and 750mm from the rear edge of the cockpit entry template.
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Post Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:25 am

astracrazy wrote:
14.3 Rear view mirrors:
14.3.2 The reflective surface of each mirror must be at least 150mm wide, this being maintained over a height of at least 50mm. Additionally, each corner may have a radius no greater than 10mm.
14.3.3 All parts of the rear view mirrors, including their housings and mountings, must be situated between 250mm and 500mm from the car centre line and between 550mm and 750mm from the rear edge of the cockpit entry template.


Thanks alot :)
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Post Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:04 am

what are these?
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they look like vanes to me but much boxier than normal
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Post Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:21 am

those are turning vanes, bak in 2009 BMW Sauber did the same
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Post Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:03 pm

wesley123 wrote:those are turning vanes, bak in 2009 BMW Sauber did the same


And there used on alot of the car this year.
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Post Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:20 am

most turning vanes are curved, why have you gone for these square ended ones?
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Post Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:48 pm

MIKEY_! wrote:most turning vanes are curved, why have you gone for these square ended ones?


Yes, most.
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Post Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:13 am

have you got a picture of one of these square ended vanes on a car? they look like they would cause some aero problems for sure
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Post Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:23 pm

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Post Sun Sep 23, 2012 1:37 pm

MIKEY_! wrote:have you got a picture of one of these square ended vanes on a car? they look like they would cause some aero problems for sure


Why would that be the case?
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Post Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:03 pm

I presume they are acting somewhat like gurneys? Or trying to reduce drag?
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Post Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:44 pm

The picture doesn't give justice as they have a lot more curvature than i the pic
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Post Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:25 am

thanks cottrell that's interesting, gurney's could be the answer (although i cant see how they would be better than a curve in this circumstance) maybe the idea is to create a low pressure behind the vane thus reducing drag caused by the tire.
I'd expect these to disrupt smooth airflow between the vane and the endplate, block airflow and reduce downforce, would be nice to see them in cfd
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Post Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:36 pm

MIKEY_! wrote:thanks cottrell that's interesting, gurney's could be the answer (although i cant see how they would be better than a curve in this circumstance) maybe the idea is to create a low pressure behind the vane thus reducing drag caused by the tire.
I'd expect these to disrupt smooth airflow between the vane and the endplate, block airflow and reduce downforce, would be nice to see them in cfd


Well im planing/drawing a major aero package evolution upgrade ready for the KV race soon, so hopefully those veins will be gone :lol:
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Post Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:05 am

i look forward to it as always mate
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