Mclaren MP4-30 Honda

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mikeerfol wrote:Any ideas on what this is?

https://twitter.com/andihaupt1/status/5 ... 2000723968
Temperature reader perhaps?

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mikeerfol wrote:Any ideas on what this is?

https://twitter.com/andihaupt1/status/5 ... 2000723968
I don't know, but that's interesting...

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I keep looking at images of this car and it´s just staggering what a transformation Mclaren has done.
The cokebottle is nothing short of insanity.

Here´s a quick image of the Macca and Ferrari cokebottles.

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as you can see by the floor of the Mclaren expanding the angles are not perfect but should give a general idea of the main differences.
I think in a proper comparison the MClaren pods will follow the Ferrari pods until the UPS logo then taper inwards rapidly.
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turbof1 wrote: YOU SHALL NOT......STALLLLL!!!
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The only concern i have with the sidepods is that the shape at the rear, where it pinches in dratically toward the gearbox was done with the blown exhuast in mind at the time. The blown exhaust was better able to permit such a sharp transition of bodywork without much eddies forming off the back of the side pod.
what you will find is that when the blown exhausts were banned redbull eased a bit on this section of the sidepods and made it more smooth and less agressive Because of the lower energy of the air flow with the lack of entrainement from the exhausts.
So seeing this agressive shaping is somewhat interesting. lets see how well the car works. The car looks fantastic but i would say the proof of the pudding is in the eating. The ferrari and the others have a more safer bet with their sidepod shape. Its not as agresive but it has a wider margin for performance.
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Closer Look at the McLaren Rims, that has to do until tomorrow.

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SectorOne wrote:I keep looking at images of this car and it´s just staggering what a transformation Mclaren has done.
The cokebottle is nothing short of insanity.

Here´s a quick image of the Macca and Ferrari cokebottles.

http://i.imgur.com/vF6lw4T.jpg

as you can see by the floor of the Mclaren expanding the angles are not perfect but should give a general idea of the main differences.
I think in a proper comparison the MClaren pods will follow the Ferrari pods until the UPS logo then taper inwards rapidly.
This is something good or bad for Mclaren judging by an aerodynamic point of view?

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I'm sure it's not just the width and return curve of the pods from the plan view that's important. It's how the air is getting to those sections from the front of the pods/bargeboards/winglets and from the undercut. The MP430 looks like it has a more aggressive undercut than the SF15F

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Scarbs on MP4-30 with TRE

http://youtu.be/Bwe7Egug9gc

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question btw, as i've never took the effort of looking into this 'stuff' - is there a logical / pre-ordaned 'order' on which
the trucks must park? Are the cars parked right behind the other side of the garage? how does that work?
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mikeerfol wrote:Any ideas on what this is?

https://twitter.com/andihaupt1/status/5 ... 2000723968
That is clearly to get an idea of the surface roughness. I am just not sure what they use if for. It might be for aero/CFD correlation, where it affects the boundary layer. Or the more obvious: tire grip.

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mep wrote:
mikeerfol wrote:Any ideas on what this is?

https://twitter.com/andihaupt1/status/5 ... 2000723968
That is clearly to get an idea of the surface roughness. I am just not sure what they use if for. It might be for aero/CFD correlation, where it affects the boundary layer. Or the more obvious: tire grip.
just a thought; might use it and scan it in a 3D-scanner to read the surface and then update the 'track' model they have for simulations on tire wear and tire effects.
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Manoah2u wrote:
mep wrote:
mikeerfol wrote:Any ideas on what this is?

https://twitter.com/andihaupt1/status/5 ... 2000723968
That is clearly to get an idea of the surface roughness. I am just not sure what they use if for. It might be for aero/CFD correlation, where it affects the boundary layer. Or the more obvious: tire grip.
just a thought; might use it and scan it in a 3D-scanner to read the surface and then update the 'track' model they have for simulations on tire wear and tire effects.
Pretty much that. If they did it about 10 places in each sector they would get a much accurate tyre simulation in the simulator and that would make their ability to manage the tyres correctly much better and into 2015 they may even be able to make their tyres last an extra 2 or 3 laps over the rest on the same pace, but in return it will leave the tyres extra material for the drivers to play with and push that extra tenth to tenth and a half extra per lap over a stint. If this is true over the season, ill be one happy man.

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SectorOne wrote:I keep looking at images of this car and it´s just staggering what a transformation Mclaren has done.
The cokebottle is nothing short of insanity.

Here´s a quick image of the Macca and Ferrari cokebottles.

http://i.imgur.com/vF6lw4T.jpg

as you can see by the floor of the Mclaren expanding the angles are not perfect but should give a general idea of the main differences.
I think in a proper comparison the MClaren pods will follow the Ferrari pods until the UPS logo then taper inwards rapidly.
This image shows the McLaren as substantially wider than the Ferrari, and severely distorts the reality of how tight it is.

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Moose wrote:This image shows the McLaren as substantially wider than the Ferrari, and severely distorts the reality of how tight it is.
I´m not so sure about that, sure it´s probably a bit wider but not substantially.

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It´s also worth pointing out that the Mclaren images are heavily skewed.

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