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What happened to the Haas team

No news from them for over a month

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WilliamsF1 wrote:What happened to the Haas team

No news from them for over a month
Nascar season began. They probably just forgot about this.

Or they simply doesn't have anything new to tell.

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WilliamsF1 wrote:What happened to the Haas team

No news from them for over a month
What is there to say? They aren't planning any running or livery updates before the 2016 preseason so they continue to employ staff and work with Dallara on the car.

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Well, they do have a website you could easily check, http://www.haasf1team.com. Latest news, Mar 10th:



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Mar. 10, 2015
Haas F1 Team On Schedule for 2016 Debut

KANNAPOLIS, North Carolina – Haas F1 Team is on schedule to make its debut in the FIA Formula 1 World Championship in 2016, becoming the first American-led Formula One team in 30 years.

Getting a start-up team to the grid is a massive logistical and technical undertaking, but under the leadership of team principal Guenther Steiner, Haas F1 Team has many vital pieces already in place despite the 2016 season being a year away.

Augmenting Haas F1 Team’s United States home in Kannapolis, North Carolina, is the recent purchase of a facility in Banbury, Oxfordshire, U.K. The 3.655 square-meter (39,350 square-foot) building will serve as Haas F1 Team’s European base, allowing for easier and quicker access to the team’s overseas suppliers and streamlined logistics for when the team travels to Formula One venues in Europe.

Construction of the team’s equipment, from transporters to the pit apparatus to garage setup, is well underway. Upon completion, all will be housed at Haas F1 Team’s Banbury location.

Key personnel have also been added, notably Dave O’Neill as team manager, Rob Taylor as chief designer and Ben Agathangelou as chief aerodynamicist.

O’Neill came to Haas F1 Team from Marussia F1 Team, joining what was originally Manor GP in 2009. O’Neill’s experience is quite valuable to Haas F1 Team, for his task upon joining Manor was to set up a Formula One team in six months. Recruitment of personnel, the purchase of equipment and infrastructure, oversight of car design and supplier selection were just a few of O’Neill’s many duties. O’Neill was the team manager for Jordan Grand Prix from 1998 through 2005 before joining A1GP, a racing series promoted as the “World Cup of Motorsport”. As the chief technical coordinator for A1GP, O’Neill set up the series and track testing of cars. During this time, he also served in the role of team manager for A1GP’s Team Ireland, winning the A1GP championship in the series’ fourth season (2008-2009).

Taylor also joined Haas F1 Team from Marussia, where he held the post of deputy chief designer. Prior to Marussia, Taylor was the senior design team leader at McLaren from April 2006 through December 2010. Before McLaren, Taylor was head of vehicle design for Red Bull Racing, Toro Rosso and Jaguar beginning in 2002. Senior design roles at Arrows (1997-2002) and Scuderia Ferrari (1992-1997) were achieved after stints at Cosworth (1987-1989) and Benetton (1989-1992). Taylor’s role with Haas F1 Team marks his 28th year in Formula One, a tenure that has provided a range of experience in all disciplines of Formula One design.

Agathangelou paired with Haas F1 Team from Scuderia Ferrari where he managed the upgrade of the team’s wind tunnel and testing systems in Maranello, Italy, in March 2012. Prior to that, Agathangelou was with Dallara, serving as an engineering consultant for a number of projects the Italian racecar manufacturer had dating back to 2009, which included the technical lead for the Campos F1 project, 2012 technical upgrades for GP2 and the World Series Renault, design and development of the DW12 Indycar chassis, and management of the Alfa Romeo 4C “low cost” sports road car project. Agathangelou has a wealth of Formula One experience, for he was the head of aerodynamics for Jaguar and later Red Bull Racing from 2002 through 2007. Agathangelou held the same role with Renault F1/Benetton from September 1999 to March 2002. Agathangelou began his Formula One career in 1994 with McLaren as an aerodynamics analyst, moved to Tyrrell in August 1997 as senior aerodynamicist and then joined Honda Racing Development in April 1998 as chief aerodynamicist to prepare Honda’s 2000 Formula One entry.

Agathangelou and Taylor have already designed the 60-percent scale model of the car Haas F1 Team will race in 2016. The duo has logged numerous hours in the wind tunnel it shares with Haas F1 Team technical partner Scuderia Ferrari. By working diligently to develop the scale model now, Haas F1 Team will be ready to go racing in 2016.

“While there is still a lot of work to do, a lot has already been accomplished for Haas F1 Team to be competitive when we join the F1 grid in 2016,” said Steiner, a Formula One veteran who was originally recruited by three-time Formula One champion Niki Lauda to join Jaguar in 2001 as the team’s managing director. “Our technical partnership with Ferrari has allowed us to develop our car and our people at an exceptional pace. The way we’re going about our F1 team is new and different, but it’s working. We’re committed to our plan, we’re committed to F1 and, most importantly, we’re on schedule. This time next year, our cars will have already been tested and we’ll be readying them for Melbourne.”

Melbourne, Australia, serves as the kickoff race for the Formula One season. It’s where Haas F1 Team will make its debut following preseason testing. Haas Automation, Inc., the CNC machine tool builder Haas F1 Team chairman Gene Haas founded in 1983, will serve as the team’s primary sponsor.

In addition to Haas F1 Team, Haas’ motorsports holdings include Stewart-Haas Racing and Windshear.

Stewart-Haas Racing is co-owned by Haas and Tony Stewart. The organization won the Sprint Cup championship in 2014 with driver Kevin Harvick to earn the team’s second championship in four years. Driver-owner Stewart won the team’s first Sprint Cup title in 2011. Stewart-Haas Racing fields four entries – the No. 14 Bass Pro Shops/Mobil 1 Chevrolet for Stewart, the No. 10 GoDaddy Chevrolet for Danica Patrick, the No. 4 Budweiser/Jimmy John’s Chevrolet for Harvick and the No. 41 Haas Automation Chevrolet for Kurt Busch. The team operates out of an 18.581 square-meter (200,000 square-foot) facility with approximately 280 employees.

Windshear is a 290 kph (180 mph) rolling-road wind tunnel in Concord, North Carolina, that is the first of its kind in North America. Founded by Haas, it is only the third rolling-road wind tunnel of its scale in existence and the world’s first commercially available, full-scale, rolling-road wind tunnel. Windshear is available for hire to all motorsports teams and auto manufacturers. NASCAR, INDYCAR, sports car and NHRA teams utilize Windshear, as does the United States Council for Automotive Research (USCAR), which has conducted tests on production cars at Windshear.

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Haas supposedly is having unlimited wind tunnel time which has angered the smaller teams.

Makes one wonder if Haas has dedicated such technical and financial support a windtunnel development that is far beyond the allowed 30 hour limit held for current teams

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Really don't see the point in things like that being posted - it's been made clear that it'll be a Ferrari powered car etc.

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and that they'll likely run a yellow livery.
"Explain the ending to F1 in football terms"
"Hamilton was beating Verstappen 7-0, then the ref decided F%$& rules, next goal wins
while also sending off 4 Hamilton players to make it more interesting"

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They probably won't race in the IndyCar Series either.

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WilliamsF1 wrote:Haas supposedly is having unlimited wind tunnel time which has angered the smaller teams.

Makes one wonder if Haas has dedicated such technical and financial support a windtunnel development that is far beyond the allowed 30 hour limit held for current teams
when does the limit on wind tunnel time start though? I mean they haven't turned a single lap of any type, and they aren't slated to till 2016.
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WilliamsF1 wrote:Haas supposedly is having unlimited wind tunnel time which has angered the smaller teams.

Makes one wonder if Haas has dedicated such technical and financial support a windtunnel development that is far beyond the allowed 30 hour limit held for current teams
Considering wind shear is a division of Haas and it's been in use for some time now...I can't imagine the technical or financial support is terribly high unless there is a decent backlog for access.

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I would hope the rules state that any design/s that race in a given season is limited to a certain total amount of wind tunnel devlopment time.

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NBC Sports wrote:[...]

Haas said his F1 team will operate out of Ferrari’s wind tunnel rather than his own one in Charlotte. F1’s regulations stipulate only one wind tunnel can be utilized.

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grandprix.com wrote:[...]

"He (Agathangelou) and Taylor have already made a 60 per cent wind tunnel model" of the Ferrari-powered 2015 car, correspondent Michael Schmidt wrote.

The report added that the 2016 Haas car is based on this year's Ferrari, and will be entirely wind tunnel-tested at Maranello.

[...]
In reading between the lines, I think the goal for this venture becomes clear.

Given that both the SF15-T and Haas' 2016 challenger, which is to be based upon the SF15-T, are currently in development at the same location, using the same resources, the result is effectively one in which Ferrari's current car, as well as both teams' future cars, potentially stand to gain an advantage, because it might ultimately allow each of those cars to be designed with as much as twice the wind tunnel time/CFD power ordinarily allowed by the regulations.

(Holy run-on sentence, Batman!)

And what tends to happen to the time required to complete any given project if the resources used to do so are somehow doubled?
grandprix.com wrote:[...]

"It has been not only about developing the engine, but every single part of the car, realising in three months what normally would have taken six.

[...]
Pretty slick, huh? And it's all perfectly legit!

Message: what goes around, comes around.

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Having twice the data as your rivals sure is helpful when testing is largely banned.

Suckas! :lol:
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dans79 wrote:
WilliamsF1 wrote:Haas supposedly is having unlimited wind tunnel time which has angered the smaller teams.

Makes one wonder if Haas has dedicated such technical and financial support a windtunnel development that is far beyond the allowed 30 hour limit held for current teams
when does the limit on wind tunnel time start though? I mean they haven't turned a single lap of any type, and they aren't slated to till 2016.
Does it not start on Jan 1st 2016, when they become entrants to the 2016 World Championships? Is it not similar to when a reporter asked Toto Wolff what's to stop Honda (in 2014) putting the 2015 engine in a mule and lapping Montegi until the cows come home with unlimited track testing, Wolffs rely was "despite Honda not being bound by the sporting regulations in 2014, there is a gentleman's agreement that they won't."
Forza Jules

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Gaz. wrote:Honda (in 2014) putting the 2015 engine in a mule and lapping Montegi until the cows come home with unlimited track testing, Wolffs rely was "despite Honda not being bound by the sporting regulations in 2014, there is a gentleman's agreement that they won't."
I don't think Honda had an engine that could run on track. They could hardly get the MP4-30 around a track.

That said there was nothing stopping Honda from track testing that engine, while a McLaren Honda would have been a different story

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