In the end it goes like this: "Eat or be eaten" in F1. Probably Ferrari didnt offer enough money on the table, and on the other hand Mercedes probably hinted they might need him one day. I also believe that Rosbergs quiting was known for some time in the Mercedes team. And to be honest, Bottas has more chances of getting more results in the Mercedes than in the Ferrari, due to both: structural and mechanical aspect. Maybe im wrong, but i agree with most of the people that this year title battle will be fought by Mercedes and Redbull.Manoah2u wrote:So it was true then about the Ferrari talks and rumours.
That is a really sh*t move from Williams then to be honest.
Stupid too as i wouldn't be surprised he doesnt do as much of an effort after that - which could explain his 'slump' when
i think 2014 was pretty well and after that it went downward, 2016 notable to be honest.
You could argue he's better off now, and that probably is true, but that doesnt take away doing a rather sh*tty move on him before.
It also remains to be seen in what shape Merc is in 2017.
Imagine Ferrari surprisingly being the team to beat and Bottas could have been there since 2015/2016 picking the fruits next season.
Williams had a driver under contract. Pretty tough to argue that they were in anyway sh**y towards valteri. Paying him millions and providing a decent race seat counts as sh**y these day?Manoah2u wrote:So it was true then about the Ferrari talks and rumours.
That is a really sh*t move from Williams then to be honest.
Stupid too as i wouldn't be surprised he doesnt do as much of an effort after that - which could explain his 'slump' when
i think 2014 was pretty well and after that it went downward, 2016 notable to be honest.
You could argue he's better off now, and that probably is true, but that doesnt take away doing a rather sh*tty move on him before.
It also remains to be seen in what shape Merc is in 2017.
Imagine Ferrari surprisingly being the team to beat and Bottas could have been there since 2015/2016 picking the fruits next season.
There might actually be a rule that he cannot get such a new car to carry home or something like williams protecting technology from being exposed while it is still very relevant. I have a feeling mercedes is taking that engine back too and it is only a rolling chassis with a generic engine fitted.Gridlock wrote:Why would you want your '16 car delivered when you've got a year of competing in a '17 to come? And it's not like he can run it anyway. What if he wins a race this year? Which car is he going to want then?
To suggest they withheld a gift seems a bit mean.
For sure yes, Vettel probably wishes he had a team like Williams that would have prevented him from going to Ferrari!hemichromis wrote:Williams keeping him from going to Ferrari looks like a big favour now!LookBackTime wrote:Williams "promised" Bottas release to top F1 team
Williams promised Bottas it would not stand in his way again after blocking his potential move to Ferrari.
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/willi ... am-874580/
Ferrari would pay Felipe more to have a look inside that engine than what they paid him to drive for them all those years combined =D>PlatinumZealot wrote:
There might actually be a rule that he cannot get such a new car to carry home or something like williams protecting technology from being exposed while it is still very relevant. I have a feeling mercedes is taking that engine back too and it is only a rolling chassis with a generic engine fitted.
Take a look a Sauber C36 F1 car! I will use the Lewis H. words: 'It looks like a boat'!Vasconia wrote:The new car looks suspiciously similar to 2016s car, and quite underdeveloped in some areas. A quite disappointing presentation if you ask me, if other teams do the same(quite posible) we will be forced to wait to Barcelona, just to realize if the cars are as aggresive and spectacular as it was announced.
I have seen those images.LookBackTime wrote:Take a look a Sauber C36 F1 car! I will use the Lewis H. words: 'It looks like a boat'!Vasconia wrote:The new car looks suspiciously similar to 2016s car, and quite underdeveloped in some areas. A quite disappointing presentation if you ask me, if other teams do the same(quite posible) we will be forced to wait to Barcelona, just to realize if the cars are as aggresive and spectacular as it was announced.
Vasconia wrote:The new car looks suspiciously similar to 2016s car, and quite underdeveloped in some areas. A quite disappointing presentation if you ask me, if other teams do the same(quite posible) we will be forced to wait to Barcelona, just to realize if the cars are as aggresive and spectacular as it was announced.
You are right. Anyway teams like RB, Mercedes or TR should give us some interesting visual variations to enjoy and analize. Don´t think that Sauber and Williams are the best examples on aerodinamic evolution.Sevach wrote:Vasconia wrote:The new car looks suspiciously similar to 2016s car, and quite underdeveloped in some areas. A quite disappointing presentation if you ask me, if other teams do the same(quite posible) we will be forced to wait to Barcelona, just to realize if the cars are as aggresive and spectacular as it was announced.
I think they'll look better out on track and on TV thanks to being larger, having bigger tires and a more proportional rear wing, on studio photos they are pretty underwhelming though.
I also don't expect any ultra innovative visual changes, just variations of what teams were doing already.