2017 Haas F1 Team - Ferrari

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Re: 2017 Haas F1 Team - Ferrari

Post by bauc » Fri May 19, 2017 3:08 pm

F1NAC wrote:
Fri May 19, 2017 2:46 pm
New livery for Monaco
I've read that it will remain for the rest of the season due to ''better'' car visibility
Life long Mclaren fan

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Re: 2017 Haas F1 Team - Ferrari

Post by SR71 » Fri May 19, 2017 11:00 pm

Just to throw a little bit of color theory into the conversation and highlight that even a team as well funded as HAAS is can still make some mistakes no billion dollar company should be making.

The problem with the HAAS livery this season has been the GREY/RED combo are exactly the same value - or so close that it doesnt matter.

When you put a color on top of a grey and both share the same value - you're not getting any contrast. Under most lighting conditions, the sidepod HAAS logo was basically invisible when shot on TV cameras (photographic equipment is much different and irrelevant giving that HAAS is in F1 to promote its brand on TV cameras).

To highlight the problem I'm sharing this side by side image shot on photographic equipment. The right hand image has only had 1 process done to it, full desaturation. The HAAS on the sidepod is basically the same tone of grey as the grey bodywork.

Now this problem is even worse on TV cameras.

#amateur

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Now if you see the WHITE HAAS logo on the rear wing is still highly visible under de-saturation.

Kid's, if you're going to spend a few billion to promote your brand on TV, learn some basics of color theory.

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Re: 2017 Haas F1 Team - Ferrari

Post by FrukostScones » Tue May 23, 2017 3:17 pm

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Game Over! NVWSSV is here.

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Re: 2017 Haas F1 Team - Ferrari

Post by marmer » Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:22 am

Has there ever been a team with more brake problems than Haas

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Re: 2017 Haas F1 Team - Ferrari

Post by skoop » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:54 am

marmer wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:22 am
Has there ever been a team with more brake problems than Haas

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No, there Haas not.
Sorry :)

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Re: 2017 Haas F1 Team - Ferrari

Post by Holm86 » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:59 am

skoop wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:54 am
marmer wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:22 am
Has there ever been a team with more brake problems than Haas

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No, there Haas not.
Sorry :)
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: 2017 Haas F1 Team - Ferrari

Post by Jolle » Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:15 pm

Holm86 wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:59 am
skoop wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:54 am
marmer wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:22 am
Has there ever been a team with more brake problems than Haas

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No, there Haas not.
Sorry :)
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I wonder from the whole brake setup, which part isn’t from Ferrari of at least the same supplier...

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Re: 2017 Haas F1 Team - Ferrari

Post by marmer » Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:01 pm

According to sky if you watch free practice the issue seems to be with the BBW coding that Haas must do themselves

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Re: 2017 Haas F1 Team - Ferrari

Post by Manoah2u » Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:04 pm

Magnussen was outstanding in Azerbadjan, great stuff from HAAS.
Dumpster sounds so much more classy. It's the diamond of the cesspools.

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Re: 2017 Haas F1 Team - Ferrari

Post by 1158 » Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:07 pm

Is MAG having brake issues too or is it just GRO? I never seem to hear anything about MAG having these issues.

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Re: 2017 Haas F1 Team - Ferrari

Post by rscsr » Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:19 pm

1158 wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:07 pm
Is MAG having brake issues too or is it just GRO? I never seem to hear anything about MAG having these issues.
As far as I remember MAG's brakes also haven't been the greatest during this race.

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Re: 2017 Haas F1 Team - Ferrari

Post by langwadt » Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:33 pm

rscsr wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:19 pm
1158 wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:07 pm
Is MAG having brake issues too or is it just GRO? I never seem to hear anything about MAG having these issues.
As far as I remember MAG's brakes also haven't been the greatest during this race.
I wonder what GRO does to the brakes, MAG had a great race and we didn't hear any complaints on the radio, while GRO sounded like he was ready to retire.

afaiu they switch to carbon industries as soon as they have the cooling parts sorted out

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Re: 2017 Haas F1 Team - Ferrari

Post by Manoah2u » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:58 am

Grosjean has been having brake problems since day one with HAAS.

i'm not recalling Guiterrez had it in the same capacity as Grosjean though, and i don't believe Magnussen is having the same amount either, which would point that the issue is more driver-related and could be down to driving style, though one could also argue that Grosjean is pushing the car more or is getting more out of the car, hence why he had better results.
Dumpster sounds so much more classy. It's the diamond of the cesspools.

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Re: 2017 Haas F1 Team - Ferrari

Post by SteveRacer » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:59 pm

If I remember correctly, all the teams struggled with the BBW system when they first had to use it. Haas has had a year and a half so it's about time they get to the bottom of it.

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Re: 2017 Haas F1 Team - Ferrari

Post by waynes » Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:27 am

why have the FIA not intervened on safety grounds ?

i understand any brake problems are magnified by tv transmission of radio chat but it seems every single race GRO has problems, however if there is a genuine problem and its a recurring one, why are the stewards/FIA not getting involved?

maybe im missing something but in these safety conscious times surely something needs sorting out



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