How far away are we from a composite/carbon fiber engine block?

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How far away are we from a composite/carbon fiber engine block?

Post by godlameroso » Fri May 19, 2017 5:18 pm

Like the title states, how far away are we from having some crazy manufacturer decide to make a sleeved engine block made from a carbon composite?

http://blog.caranddriver.com/is-this-th ... ine-block/

Someone is trying, could this work it's way into F1?
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Re: How far away are we from a composite/carbon fiber engine block?

Post by rgava » Fri May 19, 2017 8:16 pm

With current rules, it's forbidden.

If it were not forbidden, why not?

Only thing I find possibly problematic is the lower thermal conductivity wich could complicate the colling system design, creating hot spots difficult to cool.

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Re: How far away are we from a composite/carbon fiber engine block?

Post by Andres125sx » Sat May 20, 2017 4:42 pm

Is that even possible?

How will they manage to make carbon fiber heat resistant to that point?

some special resin must be used for sure, but what?

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Re: How far away are we from a composite/carbon fiber engine block?

Post by godlameroso » Sun May 21, 2017 4:52 am

Carbon composites can take the heat, but are prone to cracking far more than aluminum, once we solve that there's no reason no to.
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Re: How far away are we from a composite/carbon fiber engine block?

Post by DiogoBrand » Sun May 21, 2017 4:57 pm

Even if there were no fixed alloys for engines, minimum weight and road relevance wouldn't make it worth the effort.

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Re: How far away are we from a composite/carbon fiber engine block?

Post by BanMeToo » Mon May 22, 2017 8:31 pm

How much weight would be saved?

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Re: How far away are we from a composite/carbon fiber engine block?

Post by etusch » Tue May 23, 2017 8:37 pm

Taking some parts from outside someone can make his own home made engine with carbon fibre then. Good idea. 8)

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Re: How far away are we from a composite/carbon fiber engine block?

Post by noname » Wed May 24, 2017 1:56 pm

Andres125sx wrote:
Sat May 20, 2017 4:42 pm
Is that even possible?

How will they manage to make carbon fiber heat resistant to that point?

some special resin must be used for sure, but what?
http://www.high-temperature-composites. ... rokarb.htm

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Re: How far away are we from a composite/carbon fiber engine block?

Post by Pat Pending » Thu May 25, 2017 12:03 am

It's carbon fiber Jim, but not as we know it.

Not that it really matters but the material being used in that example is fiber reinforced resin, which is closer to good old GRP or fiberglass if you prefer. It's not woven carbon fiber held within a resin matrix, which is what most people tend to think of when you say carbon fiber.

It's still quite impressive though that we can now contemplate an essentially plastic engine block.



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