HALO Approved for 2018

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Re: HALO Approved for 2018

Post by ringo » Sun Aug 06, 2017 8:42 pm

I like the halo from day 1.
The thing with a screen is that it can cause motion sickness, glare, obstruction for the drivers. Also it can possibly be smeared or distorted on track and a driver would have to retire because the screen cannot be replaced during the race.

The Halo doesnt have those issues, and it still gives us a good view of the driver and his hands in the car. I think it's the best solution.
It's not cool and power ranger/voltron looking like the screen, but for all intents and purposes it's the best solution.

And we will soon get used to it. This is similar to seatbelts, side impact structures, head rest cushions, high side panels, and other safety gear introduced over the sports history that acted to reduce how much of the driver we can see, and took away the intimate connection with the sport. But this head protection thing is necessary so we have to just live with it.
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Re: HALO Approved for 2018

Post by NathanOlder » Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:06 am

Manoah2u wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:56 am
eh no. facts tells you otherwise.

iphone 7 weighs 138 grams including battery. battery weighs about 30 grams. that equals 108 grams without battery.
mirror weight: 160g per unit , right here specified on f1technical.

that's over 50 grams lighter on each side, a 100 grams in total.

how is sunlight going to be direct on them in a frigging tight f1 cockpit. at the worst, they'll put a small lip on the top and add an anti-reflective layer on top of it, really not an issue.
So now you have added a lip above each screen, dont forget the 2 cameras as well, and the wiring from each camera. Plus any fitting for each screen plus the cameras will need some housing so they dont get wet or dirty.

So there is probably a similar weight (being generous to the camera, screens ect ect) and all that for a small screen.

Using a phone, tablet, laptop, tv outside is crap, even if you use anti glare screens ect, it's way off a mirror. So I just don't see why a screen would be beneficial. And where would they put 2 screens on the Williams ? A mirror is perfectly places to take a last look as you are turning into a corner.

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Re: HALO Approved for 2018

Post by Manoah2u » Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:01 pm

i'll repeat this question.

why does Formula E get a 'aeroscreen'/canopy,
and for F1, it's not possible, and they get a Halo?
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Re: HALO Approved for 2018

Post by FW17 » Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:13 pm

FE is a concept, not sure if they are going to use it.

Let us wait a few months and see what Indy Car is going to use. They have made the initial modifications such as moving the air intake from the roll hoop to the side pod. They have stated that aeroscreen will be used, but let us see.
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Re: HALO Approved for 2018

Post by Manoah2u » Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:19 pm

i thought they would, but then i might be mistaken.

also;

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Re: HALO Approved for 2018

Post by dsrankin » Tue Aug 08, 2017 3:47 pm

The halo is ugly and it's approval was shoved down the teams and drivers throats. The drivers don't want the halo or the screen. Motorsport is dangerous and the drivers accept it. We see in other motorsports the safer the cars keep getting the more the drivers take too many chances. We don't want to lose drivers and I'm all for safety but motor racing is becoming too controlled.

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Re: HALO Approved for 2018

Post by NathanOlder » Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:32 pm

A quick question, if the Halo was on Senna's Mclaren in 91. Woukd he have got out his car when he crashed in Mexico ?
Look how hard it was to get out, remembering that the Halo wont sit on top of the gravel, it will probably sink.

[youtube]https://youtu.be/OzP6nFYdXkE[/youtube]

I just cant see how this is going to be easy when the car is in Gravel.

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Re: HALO Approved for 2018

Post by dodds_turbo » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:22 am

NathanOlder wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:32 pm
A quick question, if the Halo was on Senna's Mclaren in 91. Woukd he have got out his car when he crashed in Mexico ?
Look how hard it was to get out, remembering that the Halo wont sit on top of the gravel, it will probably sink.

https://youtu.be/OzP6nFYdXkE

I just cant see how this is going to be easy when the car is in Gravel.
Very good point. From watching the video it looks like gravel traps shaped like that would probably cause a problem for drivers trying to wriggle free from 2017 cars as well. However the more we complain about gravel traps, the higher the likelihood of the FIA filling them all in with tarmac. :?



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