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Post Mon Feb 24, 2003 8:19 pm

<img src="http://www.f1technical.net/images/news2003/bernie1.jpg" align=left alt="Bernie in trouble?">What can be felt during the last couple of years is more and more becoming true. F1 is really not going the right way at the moment, and all the changes might have to be proven good for the sport to keep F1 existing the way it does today!
"Bernie has done an excellent job transforming F1 but he has now dramatically changed the picture,” Ferrari President Luca di Montezemolo was quoted as saying. “It's his biggest mistake. He wanted too much for himself. As a manager he got more than the teams because he was good, but now the car manufacturers are not prepared to fund the banks, they prefer to have it in their own pockets. Without us in 2008, the banks will own 100 percent of nothing. We are preparing a new championship without banks, without Bernie and with a far bigger cake."
Bernie stated he would buy back F1-shares from the banks if teams would keep into F1 until 2015. It is for sure a critical time for Bernie :wink:
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Post Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:09 am

What ever came of this? It was before my interest in F1...

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Post Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:24 pm

Pulling a "Indy/CART" split would turn the sport to ashes.
Bernie, like all the insanely rich people, is nuts, he wanted more when he had it all.

I swear that if that happens, I will change my cable operator to the one who has speed TV and began to watch NASCAR, even if I consider that a heresy :shock: !!!
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Post Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:52 pm

Very interesting, Tomba.

This is the first time the teams grunt. Now, there is an election for President. We will see two months of people taking positions. Mr. Montezemolo sounds like looking for his own president, I would if I were in his position. Anyone would have thought he would align with Mr. Ecclestone, but it does not seem the case. Actually, who's Mr. Ecclestone candidate? Do we have a thread on who's next president? Or could we use this one? :)

For me, it's a must to watch NASCAR races, specially if you can tune in during the last half hour only. It's like F1, but in reverse (in F1 you could watch the first half hour :)).
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Post Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:24 pm

Ciro Pabón wrote:For me, it's a must to watch NASCAR races, specially if you can tune in during the last half hour only. It's like F1, but in reverse (in F1 you could watch the first half hour :)).


Thats a good advice Ciro, thanks. I´m sure that in Nascar there are always close ends, sadly I can´t see the races here :(

I don´t see with good eyes to have a FIA president coming from one F1 team, even worse if it comes from a team that has been said to be "50% of the Formula 1".
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Post Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:50 pm

I think we'd be better seeing a president coming from outside fo F1, hopefully they will then be less aligned to any one view but I think that could be a too idealistic view.

I guess that with the revenues a little more equitably spilt and the threat of the break away receeding, the concorde agreement rolling as a year on year contract at the moment that Bernie will bide his time to see who will come in. It feels like he is taking a step back and waiting to see what happens so as not to prejudice imself with whoever comes in.

How about Marco Piccinini being the next president, I think he fits in quite nicely with Bernie and Max crew? http://grandprix.com/gpe/cref-picmar.html
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Post Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:56 am

How about an American President? In fact i know of one leaving office shortly... :mrgreen:
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Post Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:56 am

and THAT man is the ONLY person on earth that could do a worse job.
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Post Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:32 am

I'm sick of him and i even voted for him! However, he did sign a bill to get humans back into space, which i like very much.
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Post Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:31 pm

fastback33 wrote:I'm sick of him and i even voted for him! However, he did sign a bill to get humans back into space, which i like very much.


He signed ALOT of bills that removed people from reality.

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Post Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:47 pm

American Nick Craw would be a good choice I think along with a few other people. he is worth looking at.

http://forum.grandprix.com/ubb/ultimate ... 1;t=006573

Hermann Tomcyzk from ADAC is another motorsport man from a big club. Problem is that the big clubs are totally underrepresented in the FIA. what a joke.
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Post Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:09 am

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fastback33 wrote:I'm sick of him and i even voted for him! However, he did sign a bill to get humans back into space, which i like very much.


He signed ALOT of bills that removed people from reality.

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Are you indirectly stating you think i'm removed from reality? I usually tend to agree with a lot of things you say but if your trying to insult me....

And if we're not exploring space what are we doing Earth? Nothing.
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Post Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:03 pm

fastback33 wrote:
Conceptual wrote:
fastback33 wrote:I'm sick of him and i even voted for him! However, he did sign a bill to get humans back into space, which i like very much.


He signed ALOT of bills that removed people from reality.

Chris



Are you indirectly stating you think i'm removed from reality? I usually tend to agree with a lot of things you say but if your trying to insult me....

And if we're not exploring space what are we doing Earth? Nothing.


Sorry that I missed this one for so long...

I meant by removing people from reality as in killing them.

The USA is on the verge of a Police state, and McCain will only expidite it even faster! Obama doesn't seem to have a better plan.

Too bad our main-stream media is under Cheney's control, because the blackout they did to Ron Paul is disgusting, especially since he is the only one that cares about people more than money.

My family is looking at relocating to New Zeland by the end of this year. I would love a PM from anyone that lives there!

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