Lotus E21 Renault

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Lotus E21 Renault

Postby Richard » Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:48 pm

A quick reminder that the car threads are a haven for exploring the actual features of the actual car.

We have other threads for team & race conversations.


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The pre-launch speculation thread can be found here:

:arrow: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=14311

(Will be unlocked at launch time - 19:15 GMT)

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Re: Lotus E21 Renault

Postby stefan_ » Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:15 pm

Nice ending to the pre-launch speculation thread. Let's see it!
"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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Re: Lotus E21 Renault

Postby morefirejules08 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:24 pm

Still has the ugly step nose sadly

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Re: Lotus E21 Renault

Postby AnthonyG » Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:25 pm

Looking forward to the first one who notices it's actually last year's car.
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Re: Lotus E21 Renault

Postby Italiano » Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:26 pm

Image

Crappy launch is crappy.
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Re: Lotus E21 Renault

Postby KATO » Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:28 pm

Omg step nose... haha you guys were right its last years car I. Bet we wont see the new car till testing..
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Re: Lotus E21 Renault

Postby turbof1 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:28 pm

So they didn't put the panel due weight. Weird; the panel would weight near nothing.

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Re: Lotus E21 Renault

Postby Carmack » Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:29 pm

The exhaust ramp is there, the duck-like nose is still there...new livery, though...

Just like James said: "The devil is in the details":)

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Re: Lotus E21 Renault

Postby Mika1 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:30 pm

It's a painted E20, they don't show their cards.
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Re: Lotus E21 Renault

Postby Gridlock » Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:30 pm

turbof1 wrote:So they didn't put the panel due weight. Weird; the panel would weight near nothing.


It has to deflect up-to 200mph air masses without exploding so while light it's never gong to be an 8g CF special - and given the height above reference plane I guess it was CoG vs aero vs aesthetics and the most important one (in current F1 racing) won.

...Or we just saw a PR event and there's benefits in not revealing your solution yet. But since when has logic or probability figured in our speculation on launch cars :D
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Re: Lotus E21 Renault

Postby beelsebob » Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:30 pm

turbof1 wrote:So they didn't put the panel due weight. Weird; the panel would weight near nothing.

I'm confident that what they mean is "we found some downforce in a loophole in the rules for the vanity cover, but we're keeping it back for the first race".

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Re: Lotus E21 Renault

Postby amouzouris » Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:31 pm

turbof1 wrote:So they didn't put the panel due weight. Weird; the panel would weight near nothing.

actually as i understand it...James Allison is saying F the modesty panel...its not worth it..if someone does something clever with it to produce some downforce we will copy it...if not thats how it will stay
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Re: Lotus E21 Renault

Postby diego1960 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:31 pm

If Kimi stopps gobbling down those ice-creams that will save some weight to be used in the panel :mrgreen:
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Re: Lotus E21 Renault

Postby stefan_ » Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:32 pm

I think we'll see the real thing on the 5th.
"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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Re: Lotus E21 Renault

Postby AnthonyG » Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:32 pm

Mika1 wrote:It's a painted E20, they don't show their cards.


3rd year in a row they do that I think.

(Richard, if I were you, I'd close this thread and re-open the old one :mrgreen: )
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