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Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:48 pm

A quick reminder that the car threads are a haven for exploring the actual features of the actual car.

We have other threads for team & race conversations.


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The pre-launch speculation thread can be found here:

:arrow: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=14311

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Richard
 
Joined: 15 Apr 2009
Location: UK

Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:15 pm

Nice ending to the pre-launch speculation thread. Let's see it!
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stefan_
 
Joined: 4 Feb 2012

Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:24 pm

Still has the ugly step nose sadly
morefirejules08
 
Joined: 11 Feb 2012

Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:25 pm

Looking forward to the first one who notices it's actually last year's car.
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AnthonyG
 
Joined: 3 Mar 2012

Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:26 pm

Image

Crappy launch is crappy.
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SchumacherM
 
Joined: 7 Mar 2010
Location: Slovenia

Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:28 pm

Omg step nose... haha you guys were right its last years car I. Bet we wont see the new car till testing..
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KATO
 
Joined: 21 Oct 2012

Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:28 pm

So they didn't put the panel due weight. Weird; the panel would weight near nothing.
turbof1
 
Joined: 19 Jul 2012

Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:29 pm

The exhaust ramp is there, the duck-like nose is still there...new livery, though...

Just like James said: "The devil is in the details":)
Carmack
 
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Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:30 pm

It's a painted E20, they don't show their cards.
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Mika1
 
Joined: 16 May 2012

Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:30 pm

turbof1 wrote:So they didn't put the panel due weight. Weird; the panel would weight near nothing.


It has to deflect up-to 200mph air masses without exploding so while light it's never gong to be an 8g CF special - and given the height above reference plane I guess it was CoG vs aero vs aesthetics and the most important one (in current F1 racing) won.

...Or we just saw a PR event and there's benefits in not revealing your solution yet. But since when has logic or probability figured in our speculation on launch cars :D
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Gridlock
 
Joined: 27 Jan 2012

Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:30 pm

turbof1 wrote:So they didn't put the panel due weight. Weird; the panel would weight near nothing.

I'm confident that what they mean is "we found some downforce in a loophole in the rules for the vanity cover, but we're keeping it back for the first race".
beelsebob
 
Joined: 23 Mar 2011
Location: Cupertino, California

Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:31 pm

turbof1 wrote:So they didn't put the panel due weight. Weird; the panel would weight near nothing.

actually as i understand it...James Allison is saying F the modesty panel...its not worth it..if someone does something clever with it to produce some downforce we will copy it...if not thats how it will stay
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amouzouris
 
Joined: 14 Feb 2011

Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:31 pm

If Kimi stopps gobbling down those ice-creams that will save some weight to be used in the panel :mrgreen:
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diego1960
 
Joined: 17 Feb 2012
Location: Athens, Greece

Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:32 pm

I think we'll see the real thing on the 5th.
"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985
stefan_
 
Joined: 4 Feb 2012

Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:32 pm

Mika1 wrote:It's a painted E20, they don't show their cards.


3rd year in a row they do that I think.

(Richard, if I were you, I'd close this thread and re-open the old one :mrgreen: )
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