2014 Austrian Grand Prix - Red Bull Ring

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2014 Austrian Grand Prix - Red Bull Ring

Postby prince » Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:07 pm

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2003 Qualifying Lap - Michael Schumacher

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Re: 2014 Austrian Grand Prix - Red Bull Ring

Postby f1316 » Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:51 pm

Will be interesting to see how pole compares to 2003. In canada they were 8 tenths faster than 2003 and, whilst it's true people were qualifying with race fuel then, it still gives an indication that these v6 cars stack up fairly well with the 2003 cars - complete with the v10s.

Lap record will, of course, not be possible because of lack of refuelling, but also because michael's lap (and the circumstances which made him push so hard on low fuel) was so spectacular.

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Re: 2014 Austrian Grand Prix - Red Bull Ring

Postby Harsha » Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:57 pm

What kind of Downforce levels teams will run here , Will they run a more DF than Montreal and Bahrain ?

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Re: 2014 Austrian Grand Prix - Red Bull Ring

Postby mikeerfol » Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:11 pm

Will they still cut Turn 1? Button said he doesn't think so.

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Re: 2014 Austrian Grand Prix - Red Bull Ring

Postby prince » Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:23 pm

Harsha wrote:What kind of Downforce levels teams will run here , Will they run a more DF than Montreal and Bahrain ?


I was watching one of the videos of pre-race analysis of 2003 race and it was being mentioned that, this is a race where little over 70% of the time it is full throttle over a lap. Lot of straights, few fast corners and couple of slow ones. So, I guess, it would be medium downforce (particularly for those fast corners). Otherwise, it is a power dominated circuit.

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Re: 2014 Austrian Grand Prix - Red Bull Ring

Postby Harsha » Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:47 pm

prince wrote:
Harsha wrote:What kind of Downforce levels teams will run here , Will they run a more DF than Montreal and Bahrain ?


I was watching one of the videos of pre-race analysis of 2003 race and it was being mentioned that, this is a race where little over 70% of the time it is full throttle over a lap. Lot of straights, few fast corners and couple of slow ones. So, I guess, it would be medium downforce (particularly for those fast corners). Otherwise, it is a power dominated circuit.

2014 is hell of lot different with 2003 any way :)
But on topic i think ted said teams wanted to added wing so that they can get a better S2 and S1 , i wonder will that happen again considering the S2 turns

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Re: 2014 Austrian Grand Prix - Red Bull Ring

Postby anzx » Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:12 pm

Harsha wrote:What kind of Downforce levels teams will run here , Will they run a more DF than Montreal and Bahrain ?

Probably similar to Bahrain....
It should be interesting race and let's hope that Renault will bring upgrades for his costumers.

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Re: 2014 Austrian Grand Prix - Red Bull Ring

Postby andreag » Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:53 am

The circuit map on first post is the 2013 project, the real 2014 map with a different sector layout is available on FIA's page:

http://www.fia.com/championship/fia-for ... ircuit-map

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Re: 2014 Austrian Grand Prix - Red Bull Ring

Postby Kiril Varbanov » Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:03 pm

Here's the preview (Red Bull have raised the CGI bar too high, excellent job):


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Re: 2014 Austrian Grand Prix - Red Bull Ring

Postby Bomber_Pilot » Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:32 pm

This is my second favourite race track, right after Spa. There has always been great racing here, since turns 1 and 2 provided great overtaking oportunities.

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Re: 2014 Austrian Grand Prix - Red Bull Ring

Postby basti313 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 1:04 pm

Bomber_Pilot wrote:This is my second favourite race track, right after Spa. There has always been great racing here, since turns 1 and 2 provided great overtaking oportunities.

Did they change anything at turn 8? Because this destroyed the overtaking opportunity in turn 1 in the past. Somehow like turn 1 in Barcelona.
I expect overtaking anywhere...turn 1 and turn 2 due to DRS, hard moves at turn 3 like in the past and Redbulls trying to overtake at turn 7, because they are to slow elsewhere. :D
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Re: 2014 Austrian Grand Prix - Red Bull Ring

Postby siskue2005 » Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:13 am

this is my favorite track in all the tracks, It is such a pleasure and rewarding to drive in rfactor and f1 challenge 2002
this is just nostalgic....i just love it here :D

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Re: 2014 Austrian Grand Prix - Red Bull Ring

Postby iotar__ » Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:20 am

- Private GP of one of the teams, behold American wrestling F1. Sport where a team can co-own and co-run the whole circus on financial, sporting and technical basis, it can also own a track and a race. What are the chances of Red Bull getting any penalties compared to let's say Lotus or Force India?
- Hamilton will lead for a change and Rosberg will overtake him during pitstops, because Mercedes "learned" in Canada that giving faster driver (or unnecessarily overcooking brakes driver) same tyres and pitstop one lap later can give him a lead, imagine that.

- Track looks like simpler, faster, less developed Bahrain

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Re: 2014 Austrian Grand Prix - Red Bull Ring

Postby wesley123 » Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:59 am

Harsha wrote:What kind of Downforce levels teams will run here , Will they run a more DF than Montreal and Bahrain ?


Most likely similar to Montreal. It could be done with higher downforce, but then the extra drag would have to be overcome on the majority of the track, which means an higher fuel consumption.

So therefore, medium would be best in my opinion.
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Re: 2014 Austrian Grand Prix - Red Bull Ring

Postby turbof1 » Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:11 pm

It's good to have more lower df tracks. It reduces downforce levels, which improve overtaking plus it makes low downforce packages less a waste of money.




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