Kimi Raikkonen topped the final day of pre-season testing before all teams are heading off to Australia for the first Grand Prix of the season. Fernando Alonso went second fastest in the morning, just like Raikkonen lapping on soft Pirelli tyres. Senna for Williams went third fastest.
Give me one good reason why any team would be sandbagging. The only reason I can think of is if they have illegal parts and don't want to draw attention to it.JayeOFarrell wrote:I still wonder however weather Ferrari are sand banging, but making a really large show of it in typical Ferrari style. Don't know weather you would agree with me or not but I just think it should not be ruled out.
I think it is the same functionally as the mclaren and Sauber. Just looks a bit different.JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:@ Beelsebob
Yes I too saw that, made mention of that in my earlier post. Around a 2 second drop off after 5 laps and 3-4 seconds after 10+ laps.
Seems to be uniform wear amongst McLaren, Lotus and Mercedes. So, perhaps Mercedes shouldnt be singled out on this. I think they definitely ran these heavier fuel runs with the softer tyre than most other teams, probably why the "problem" looks greater than it really is.
@Nsmikle
What did your analysis bring up that changed your mind?
I agree with this too @abudaliaSome heads will roll at Ferrari if it's not up to speed by Euro's.If our predictions come true, expect a political shitstorm of epic proportions.
You can get gearbox you want in Ferrari if you pay them enough. For the right money, they'll do anything you ask them to do to a Ferrari as long as you sign a waver that you know it's no longer a standard car and therefor can't be expected to meet any regs or be warrantied.FrukostScones wrote:cry me a river, Ferrari killed the manual on their street cars so let them burn in hellChuckjr wrote:Exactly.Pierce89 wrote:Keep writing Ferrari off. It will only make it more satisfying for me
...half an hour to go and Vettel still in the garage.... mmm
Glad you agree mate...n smikle wrote:I think it is the same functionally as the mclaren and Sauber. Just looks a bit different.JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:@ Beelsebob
Yes I too saw that, made mention of that in my earlier post. Around a 2 second drop off after 5 laps and 3-4 seconds after 10+ laps.
Seems to be uniform wear amongst McLaren, Lotus and Mercedes. So, perhaps Mercedes shouldnt be singled out on this. I think they definitely ran these heavier fuel runs with the softer tyre than most other teams, probably why the "problem" looks greater than it really is.
@Nsmikle
What did your analysis bring up that changed your mind?
@abudalia F1, I share the same sentiments.. I feel Macca is in front!
Some heads will roll at Ferrari if it's not up to speed by Euro's.If our predictions come true, expect a political shitstorm of epic proportions.
Struggling Ferrari not expecting early podiums in 2012
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97841
+1beelsebob wrote:Sorry, but I don't buy it. The trackside guys were saying that the Ferrari looked really hard to drive, but that Alonso was doing the business in it. A quick car that's throwing everyone else will look easy to drive but never put in the lap time. A slow car that's got a great driver in it will look like a dog but still seem to just about keep up on the time sheet. The ferrari does the latter.Hail22 wrote:Lets just wait til Melbourne, Ferrari seem very "weird" before the season opener almost trying to give a false sense of security to RBR and Macca.
Also it could be struggling so much that maybe its time Stefano and Fry disappear with a few people and a fresh new technical group is created?
That's the second time this week someone's used the exact words as me and seemingly read my mind. Great minds..
Schurcedes, from this thread wrote:Either Ferrari have something remarkable up their sleeve and are doing their best to shield their drivers from giving the game away (which I severely doubt) or there is a political shitstorm of epic proportions brewing behind the scenes.
Good summary of testing form, I agree with most of the conclusions.AbulafiaF1 wrote:If our predictions come true, expect a political shitstorm of epic proportions.
if Merc were sandbagging with fuel during the long run, then the slight higher wear rate should not be a big concern for them.Schurcedes wrote:That's the second time this week someone's used the exact words as me and seemingly read my mind. Great minds..
Schurcedes, from this thread wrote:Either Ferrari have something remarkable up their sleeve and are doing their best to shield their drivers from giving the game away (which I severely doubt) or there is a political shitstorm of epic proportions brewing behind the scenes.Good summary of testing form, I agree with most of the conclusions.AbulafiaF1 wrote:If our predictions come true, expect a political shitstorm of epic proportions.
Schumacher had initially said they needed to work on the degradation after day 1, only to deny it was an issue after yesterday; I believe Mercedes PR speak kicked in following Schumacher's remarks and all three were suddenly upbeat and positive about their chances. (something similar happened the last couple of years, Schumacher and Brawn were initially quite realistic) With that in mind I think they might indeed have a wear rate problem, though perhaps not a very serious one compared to the leaders as all cars seemed to suffer from severe dropoffs.
