2014 Testing - Bahrain 27 Feb - 2 Mar

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Re: Williams FW36 Mercedes

Post by basti313 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:12 pm

From AMuS:
15:45 Und hier zum Vergleuich der zweite Stint von Bottas 21 Runden ebenfalls auf Medium-Reifen: Outlap - 1:40.4 - 1:41.1 - 1:41.5 - 1:41.9 - 1:41.9 - 1:41.3 - 1:41.7 - 1:41.6 - 1:41.6 - 1:41.9 - 1:41.8 - 1:41.9 - 1:42.0 - 1:42.5 - 1:42.4 - 1:42.9 - 1:43.3 - 1:43.4 - 1:43.7 - Inlap

15:42 Hier der zweite Stint von Magnussen 22 Runden auf Medium-Reifen: Outlap - 1:40.5 - 1:41.5 - 1:41.9 - 1:42.0 - 1:42.0 - 1:42.0 - 1:41.8 - 1:42.7 - 1:43.4 - 1:43.1 - 1:43.1 - 1:43.5 - 1:43.7 - 1:44.1 - 1:44.3 - 1:45.0 - 1:45.2 - 1:45.8 - 1:46.4 - 1:46.6 - Inlap
Tire usage...incredible good on the Williams.

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Re: McLaren MP4-29 Mercedes

Post by mclaren_mircea » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:21 pm

Mp4-29 has a very nice behaviour on track. Ben Anderson who follows the cars at certain points on the track said that Mp4-29 has a very good impression about mp4-29. It results that he has downforce because Kevin can leave very aggresive the corners, and it's a smooth and stabe car under braking ann when the car is entering the corners.

"13:05 From trackside, BEN ANDERSON tells us that Magnussen "looks more aggressive" than Bottas and Rosberg into the hairpin that leads onto the backstraight. The McLaren and the Mercedes are running at a similar pace at the moment, while Bottas is lapping around 3s quicker in the 1m40s"

"12:58 Raikkonen is in the pits once again, and from trackside BEN ANDERSON has noticed some interesting points at the exit of Turns 1/2:

Very inconsistent upshifts from the Ferrari coming out of T1/2. The Mercedes cars are a lot smoother, particularly McLaren. Sutil is getting wheelspin through T2."

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Re: 2014 Testing - Bahrain 27 Feb - 2 Mar

Post by Darknight » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:26 pm

ACJJ619 wrote:Can anyone tell me why we're testing in Bahrain rather than the usual Barcelona?

Because its the best place to test pre season?

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Re: 2014 Testing - Bahrain 27 Feb - 2 Mar

Post by willmesquita » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:30 pm

FrukostScones wrote:Renault team still in the mess! RB and Lotus 32 and 31 laps....

Williams and McLaren doing a troublefree race sim and have over 90 laps completed.

Bottas race sim looks very good. Magnussen times are pretty sh*t compared to ROS and BOT... McLaren tyre eater or drag queen?
Where Can I find the laptimes of these race simulations?
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Re: 2014 Testing - Bahrain 27 Feb - 2 Mar

Post by willmesquita » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:31 pm

willmesquita wrote:
FrukostScones wrote:Renault team still in the mess! RB and Lotus 32 and 31 laps....

Williams and McLaren doing a troublefree race sim and have over 90 laps completed.

Bottas race sim looks very good. Magnussen times are pretty sh*t compared to ROS and BOT... McLaren tyre eater or drag queen?
Where Can I find the laptimes of these race simulations?
Weather is a great point in Bahrain's choice. To properly test the cooling requirements and tyre usage, a hotter spot is needed. Bahrain fits well (and is half way to Australia too).
To do something well is so worthwhile that to die trying to do it better cannot be foolhardy. It would be a waste of life to do nothing with one's ability, for I feel that life is measured in achievement, not in years alone. ― Bruce McLaren

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Re: Williams FW36 Mercedes

Post by LookBackTime » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:33 pm

16:23 Also Bottas is ready. His 3 Stint went over 24 rounds on medium tires: out lap - 1:38.3 - 1:39.3 - 1:40.1 - 1:40.3 - 1:40.1 - 1:40.0 - 1:40.0 - 1:40.1 - 1:40.1 - 1: 40.3 - 1:40.6 - 1:40.8 - 1:40.6 - 1:41.0 - 1:40.9 - 1:41.3 - 1:41.6 - 1:41.8 - 1:42.4 - 1:43.5 - 1:43.9 - 1:45.5 - Inlap

16:19 Magnussen has finished his race simulation schedule. The third Stint was over 21 laps on soft tires. Here the individual times: out lap - 1:40.0 - 1:39.8 - 1:39.8 - 1:39.9 - 1:40.4 - 1:40.8 - 1:40.8 - 1:40.8 - 1:40.9 - 1:41.1 - 1:41.7 - 1:42.0 - 1:43.0 - 1:42.7 - 1:43.3 - 1:43.7 - 1:44.2 - 1:45.0 - 1:45.8 - Inlap

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Re: 2014 Testing - Bahrain 27 Feb - 2 Mar

Post by desl » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:35 pm

Tobias Grüner of AMuS wrote down the laptimes of Bottas' and Magnussens race simulations:
1. Stint Magnussen - hard
starting with high 1:42s, ended with 1:45s

2. Stint Magnussen - medium
Outlap - 1:40.5 - 1:41.5 - 1:41.9 - 1:42.0 - 1:42.0 - 1:42.0 - 1:41.8 - 1:42.7 - 1:43.4 - 1:43.1 - 1:43.1 - 1:43.5 - 1:43.7 - 1:44.1 - 1:44.3 - 1:45.0 - 1:45.2 - 1:45.8 - 1:46.4 - 1:46.6 - Inlap

3. Stint Magnussen - soft
Outlap - 1:40.0 - 1:39.8 - 1:39.8 - 1:39.9 - 1:40.4 - 1:40.8 - 1:40.8 - 1:40.8 - 1:40.9 - 1:41.1 - 1:41.7 - 1:42.0 - 1:43.0 - 1:42.7 - 1:43.3 - 1:43.7 - 1:44.2 - 1:45.0 - 1:45.8 - Inlap

1. Stint Bottas - soft
Outlap - Startlap - 1:40.4 - 1:41.1 - 1:40.6 - 1:41.1 - 1:41.3 - 1:41.5 - 1:41.5 - 1:41.7 - 1:42.1 - 1:42.8 - 1:43.1 - 1:43.5 - Inlap

2. Stint Bottas - medium
Outlap - 1:40.4 - 1:41.1 - 1:41.5 - 1:41.9 - 1:41.9 - 1:41.3 - 1:41.7 - 1:41.6 - 1:41.6 - 1:41.9 - 1:41.8 - 1:41.9 - 1:42.0 - 1:42.5 - 1:42.4 - 1:42.9 - 1:43.3 - 1:43.4 - 1:43.7 - Inlap

3. Stint Bottas - medium
Outlap - 1:38.3 - 1:39.3 - 1:40.1 - 1:40.3 - 1:40.1 - 1:40.0 - 1:40.0 - 1:40.1 - 1:40.1 - 1:40.3 - 1:40.6 - 1:40.8 - 1:40.6 - 1:41.0 - 1:40.9 - 1:41.3 - 1:41.6 - 1:41.8 - 1:42.4 - 1:43.5 - 1:43.9 - 1:45.5 - Inlap
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Re: 2014 Testing - Bahrain 27 Feb - 2 Mar

Post by willmesquita » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:36 pm

desl wrote:Tobias Grüner vom AMuS wrote down the laptimes of Bottas' and Magnussens race simulations:
1. Stint Magnussen - hard
starting with gigh 1:42s, ended with 1:45s

2. Stint Magnussen - medium
Outlap - 1:40.5 - 1:41.5 - 1:41.9 - 1:42.0 - 1:42.0 - 1:42.0 - 1:41.8 - 1:42.7 - 1:43.4 - 1:43.1 - 1:43.1 - 1:43.5 - 1:43.7 - 1:44.1 - 1:44.3 - 1:45.0 - 1:45.2 - 1:45.8 - 1:46.4 - 1:46.6 - Inlap

3. Stint Magnussen - soft
Outlap - 1:40.0 - 1:39.8 - 1:39.8 - 1:39.9 - 1:40.4 - 1:40.8 - 1:40.8 - 1:40.8 - 1:40.9 - 1:41.1 - 1:41.7 - 1:42.0 - 1:43.0 - 1:42.7 - 1:43.3 - 1:43.7 - 1:44.2 - 1:45.0 - 1:45.8 - Inlap

1. Stint Bottas - soft
Outlap - Startlap - 1:40.4 - 1:41.1 - 1:40.6 - 1:41.1 - 1:41.3 - 1:41.5 - 1:41.5 - 1:41.7 - 1:42.1 - 1:42.8 - 1:43.1 - 1:43.5 - Inlap

2. Stint Bottas - medium
Outlap - 1:40.4 - 1:41.1 - 1:41.5 - 1:41.9 - 1:41.9 - 1:41.3 - 1:41.7 - 1:41.6 - 1:41.6 - 1:41.9 - 1:41.8 - 1:41.9 - 1:42.0 - 1:42.5 - 1:42.4 - 1:42.9 - 1:43.3 - 1:43.4 - 1:43.7 - Inlap

3. Stint Bottas - medium
Outlap - 1:38.3 - 1:39.3 - 1:40.1 - 1:40.3 - 1:40.1 - 1:40.0 - 1:40.0 - 1:40.1 - 1:40.1 - 1:40.3 - 1:40.6 - 1:40.8 - 1:40.6 - 1:41.0 - 1:40.9 - 1:41.3 - 1:41.6 - 1:41.8 - 1:42.4 - 1:43.5 - 1:43.9 - 1:45.5 - Inlap
Thank's!
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Re: 2014 Testing - Bahrain 27 Feb - 2 Mar

Post by frosty125 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:02 pm

Bottas stint 3 looks very good in terms of consistency.

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Re: 2014 Testing - Bahrain 27 Feb - 2 Mar

Post by mclaren_mircea » Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:47 pm

Reliability problems again for Mercedes AMG team and Ferrari towards the end of the session. While Ferrari has stopped on the track with two minutes left before the end, Mercedes announced on their twitter page that their programe was curtailed running late this afternoon. It seems that W05 is the fastest car on the grid this year, but they had issues almost every day. With only 2 weeks before FP1 in Australia this puts Mercedes in a dangerous situation. They may not capitalise their speed in the opening stages. A mature team principal will always say that it's better that these problems happen in testing, but if these problems happens almost every day it may be something fundamental with the general design of the car. Yes they did a lot of laps, but just because that when the car was ok, they keep running it, but despite all this miles, that doesn't mean they have a reliable car if the car is breaking every day. About Ferrari we really can't read very much even at this stage of the testing. It may be a good car but they don't want to show us anything, but if the rumours about 75 BHP less than Mercedes engine with only one day because the engine homologation, they may not be even the third force on the grid, as Williams showed both speed and consistancy. All these things are relative, we don't know nothing for sure, except that something on W05 is breaking every day of testing.

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Re: 2014 Testing - Bahrain 27 Feb - 2 Mar

Post by bonjon1979 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:50 pm

I may be mistaken but I've not heard any of the drivers complain about excessive marbles nor have I seen any images of excessive marbles off line which can only be a good thing?

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Re: 2014 Testing - Bahrain 27 Feb - 2 Mar

Post by hollowBallistix » Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:52 pm

mclaren_mircea wrote:Reliability problems again for Mercedes AMG team and Ferrari towards the end of the session. While Ferrari has stopped on the track with two minutes left before the end, Mercedes announced on their twitter page that their programe was curtailed running late this afternoon. It seems that W05 is the fastest car on the grid this year, but they had issues almost every day. With only 2 weeks before FP1 in Australia this puts Mercedes in a dangerous situation. They may not capitalise their speed in the opening stages. A mature team principal will always say that it's better that these problems happen in testing, but if these problems happens almost every day it may be something fundamental with the general design of the car. Yes they did a lot of laps, but just because that when the car was ok, they keep running it, but despite all this miles, that doesn't mean they have a reliable car if the car is breaking every day. About Ferrari we really can't read very much even at this stage of the testing. It may be a good car but they don't want to show us anything, but if the rumours about 75 BHP less than Mercedes engine with only one day because the engine homologation, they may not be even the third force on the grid, as Williams showed both speed and consistancy. All these things are relative, we don't know nothing for sure, except that something on W05 is breaking every day of testing.
Just a tad sensationalized your claimed issues for Mercedes AMG Team...

Considering they have done the most mileage of any team I can't see your justification that they are in serious problem, considering where all the Renault based teams are currently...

Every issue they have had has been fixed within a short time, hence the most mileage covered, they will be in a better position than any other team as to how hard they can push the car, and remember that is what "testing" is all about.

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Re: 2014 Testing - Bahrain 27 Feb - 2 Mar

Post by Gridlock » Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:53 pm

Not an optimum "race simulation" if you use 3 types of rubber, no? (Magnussen)
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Re: 2014 Testing - Bahrain 27 Feb - 2 Mar

Post by Shakeman » Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:02 pm

hollowBallistix wrote:
Just a tad sensationalized your claimed issues for Mercedes AMG Team...

Considering they have done the most mileage of any team I can't see your justification that they are in serious problem, considering where all the Renault based teams are currently...

Every issue they have had has been fixed within a short time, hence the most mileage covered, they will be in a better position than any other team as to how hard they can push the car, and remember that is what "testing" is all about.
Things breaking are probably indicative of a team beginning to test the limits and not just circulating to keep the km count going.

RB would take Merc's issues right now.

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Re: 2014 Testing - Bahrain 27 Feb - 2 Mar

Post by astracrazy » Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:08 pm

a lot of Merc's issues will be slightly on purpose now. By that i mean they will be pushing the car to the limit to see what breaks ready for Aus. The position i see merc in now is not that they have a problem but that they are now preparing properly for race weekends. They have gone through the bedding in stage and the reliability testing and now they are pushing the car hard to see what breaks.