Kubica to return to racing .....

[nacho]

His face doesn't look like he's slow.

[zgred]

Half second faster than Sirotkin. This should be done. Kubika must be in Williams!

According to motosport.com Sirotkin was on softs. Kubica time on softs was: 1:40.022.

Sirotkin drove for the majority of the day and set his best time of 1m39.947s on the soft tyre, placing him 10th.
Kubica bolted on hypersofts for a late run and lapped in 1m39.485s, 1.9 seconds off Vettel's pace.

[NathanOlder]

If Kubica was slower than Sirotkin, thats very bad news, Sirotkin has never impressed me, and having a quick look, he's only won 4 races in single seaters that was higher than a national championship. 3 GP2/F2 races over 46 races, and 1 Formula Renault Race win in 34 attempts.

[Vasconia]

Day two times

1 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 1m37.551s - 118
2 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 1m38.490s 0.939s 141
3 Max Verstappen Red Bull/Renault 1m38.736s 1.185s 132
4 Sergio Perez Force India/Mercedes 1m38.818s 1.267s 52
5 Esteban Ocon Force India/Mercedes 1m39.148s 1.597s 72
6 Carlos Sainz Renault 1m39.444s 1.893s 109
7 Robert Kubica Williams/Mercedes 1m39.485s 1.934s 28
8 Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren/Honda 1m39.782s 2.231s 105
9 Kevin Magnussen Haas/Ferrari 1m39.810s 2.259s 124
10 Sergey Sirotkin Williams/Mercedes 1m39.947s 2.396s 86
11 Charles Leclerc Sauber/Ferrari 1m40.666s 3.115s 149
12 Lando Norris McLaren/Honda 1m41.714s 4.163s 118
13 Brendon Hartley Toro Rosso/Renault 1m43.345s 5.794s 61
14 Pierre Gasly Toro Rosso/Renault 1m44.827s 7.276s 63

[Vasconia]

Half second faster than Sirotkin. This should be done. Kubika must be in Williams!

According to motosport.com Sirotkin was on softs. Kubica time on softs was: 1:40.022.

Sirotkin drove for the majority of the day and set his best time of 1m39.947s on the soft tyre, placing him 10th.
Kubica bolted on hypersofts for a late run and lapped in 1m39.485s, 1.9 seconds off Vettel's pace.

If they are comparing their speed its pretty strange if someone drivers with softs and the other one with hypersoft. Whats the difference between those compounds? this would mean that Sirotkin would have been 1 or 2 secons faster? I doubt it.

[Jejking]

Stroll can't be captain, too young, erratic, inexperienced. And the second car can't crash too much because all the budget will sink into a bottomless pit by then. I really don't think they are going to pick SS over Kubica, especially if Kubica is on the pace. There is more behind a choice, such as feedback, leadership, etc. Robert has a very steep hill to climb, especially now he is a bit older. Only advantage that gives is Martini, which required 1 25+ driver.

[Shrieker]

https://youtu.be/JvXgY8s6HXQ?t=127

He can't put weight on his right arm ? What if he needs to get out pronto ? That looks not so good...

According to Brundle (at 2:40 in the below) he set the fastest time in the extraction test in Hungary. It seems determination > strength.

https://twitter.com/SkySportsF1/status/ ... 1816500224

What happens if he has a crash, and his left arm is injured ? Now he probably can't get out without (a lot of) assistance.

[timekiller001]

^
With Halo, it could be difficult for anybody to climb out with only one arm.
But I've only seen the pictures of Bottas trying it and that looked weird (hanging both arms around the middle bar), so don't really know what technique is the best

[Manoah2u]

https://youtu.be/JvXgY8s6HXQ?t=127

He can't put weight on his right arm ? What if he needs to get out pronto ? That looks not so good...

According to Brundle (at 2:40 in the below) he set the fastest time in the extraction test in Hungary. It seems determination > strength.

https://twitter.com/SkySportsF1/status/ ... 1816500224

What happens if he has a crash, and his left arm is injured ? Now he probably can't get out without (a lot of) assistance.

would be rather similar to any driver, hence why in every accident the team asks "are you allright?"
then, if they're for some reason NOT, or in a dangerous position, they will hand over either a VSC, or a SC, or even RedFlag the situation if neccesary.

So i don't see an issue at all.

The 10 second escape rule (or shorter i dunno how long it was) for pre-2018 cars would be unachieavable also if a driver breaks his leg, arm, or whatever in some hefty crash.

Think also Alonso upside-down last year. he walked away from that on 2 feet just a bit dizzy and with some rib injury, but nothing really heavy.

I think scenarios are greatly exxegerated and there are only painted doomsday ideas for Kubica for some reason, which is not at all reasonable or fair for that matter.

[netoperek]

Complete long stints lap times:



Pretty consistent

[marmer]

Complete long stints lap times:



Pretty consistent

Mainly suggests he was driving to a set time or at worst well within himself hopefully he was driving to a set time

[netoperek]

Mainly suggests he was driving to a set time or at worst well within himself hopefully he was driving to a set time

It was a Pirelli test after all, so that's exactly what I would expect on a long run.

BTW Kubica has already beaten Sirotkin while testing 2012 Renault in Valencia by approximately 0.4s. It has been confirmed by SS himself.

[Manoah2u]

I don't think we need to look too much in sirotkin vs kubica as if it's a knockout battle.

they're doing their own programmes and only they and williams will be able to compare for what they are looking for or are trying out.
furthermore, they have surely already tested speed etc. in the simulator. i think more important is feedback and sim-to-real life correlation,
and how either kubica, sirotkin, or whoever steps in the williams is able to feedback that and use it.

personally i think the deal is made already - if not, then that is only down to seeing if exactly this, translating sim data to real life is anything to go by and if
kubica can (still) do that usefully.

the smiles shouldn't be too much to go by as kubica, whether getting a contract or not, is having the time of his life driving f1 cars again and reaching his own set targets.

again i don't get the overwhelming negativity, like people are looking forward to seeing him fail.
if he couldn't cope, or be just a thousand of a percentage off, that would have been discovered in testing in a simulator and he would not have been close to a real f1 cockpit.

sirotkin isn't concidered for the williams seat anyway so why bother comparing. he is simply doing his own thing, surely because he also paid for it.

[RonDennis]

Not one comment about his 'amazing' speed, says it all really.

[marmer]

Not one comment about his 'amazing' speed, says it all really.

Well he wasn't going to light up the timing sheets in that Williams at the moment it's the only better than Haas and sauber possibly worse than Haas but has the boost from the engine Renault passed it mid season and Toro rosso would be better if they weren't running high milage engine parts