General Honda F1 Topic

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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by seezung » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:32 am

Found on Reddit;

Apparently, the Honda power unit matches the Mercedes power unit from the end of last season and is anywhere from 10-20 BHP down in race spec on the current Mercedes spec.

According to https://members.f1-life.net/report/80422/ (Japanese) Who is well known to have inside knowledge of Honda, the RA619H matches the Mercedes power unit from the end of last season.

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... lien-2019/

And according to this, Red Bull think they are between 10-20 BHP down on Mercedes in race spec right now.

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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by dren » Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:55 am

Good if true. Honda has made good progress.
Honda!

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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by Jambier » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:18 pm

dren wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:55 am
Good if true. Honda has made good progress.
Yes, but let's see what happened next.

Renault still need to unleash PU
Ferrari is for now the worst 2019 PU with their issue
Verstappen said that he used " party mode" to overtake Vettel with its low perf Ferrari engine

Honda is currently the second best engine of 2019, because they use it more than others

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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by Capharol » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:27 pm

Jambier wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:18 pm
dren wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:55 am
Good if true. Honda has made good progress.
Yes, but let's see what happened next.

Renault still need to unleash PU
Ferrari is for now the worst 2019 PU with their issue
Verstappen said that he used " party mode" to overtake Vettel with its low perf Ferrari engine

Honda is currently the second best engine of 2019, because they use it more than others
Renault already unleashed there PU, ask Sainz :lol:
Ferrari isn't the worst to me it is still Renault
he probably used it to pass by because they're setup wasn't good enough
Strive for continuous improvement, instead of perfection.
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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by mzso » Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:33 pm

Jambier wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:18 pm
Renault still need to unleash PU
Ferrari is for now the worst 2019 PU with their issue
Verstappen said that he used " party mode" to overtake Vettel with its low perf Ferrari engine

Honda is currently the second best engine of 2019, because they use it more than others
Nonsense. Ferrari engine issue is just a lame conjecture.

And what do you think, shifty Renault was running on low power just to screw themselves?

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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by Marti_EF3 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:52 pm

Due to Melbourne is hard to overtake, it's logical they need to use "overtake button" as every manufacturer have for sure. Even if the Ferrari wasn't working full potential, you need to in a track like it. So, I don't understand the point of "using party mode", if that make life easy on overtaking...

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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by Wouter » Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:06 pm

https://sportiva.shueisha.co.jp/clm/mot ... plit___f1/

2019/03/20 Honda F1 was rewarded with hard work.

"Helmut Marko: "I am very happy that the gap with Mercedes AMG has been reduced, because we were able to close the gap this much in the final compared to qualifying. But at the moment, we also know that our chassis is significantly inferior. If it can be improved, it is possible to challenge whoever is ahead. Because our power unit this year is competitive, we have to do now is the chassis side. In other words, you can win if the chassis improves. The rest is up to us. "

Even with the good results of the third place podium, Red Bull and Honda are not satisfied with it, and they are reluctant to reassure themselves with an even higher mind. President Christian Horner says:

"The power units supplied by Honda were excellent. I think we have already achieved the goal of closing the gap with Mercedes AMG and Ferrari.

But we must make further progress on this basis. Ferrari wasn't strong here, but it's definitely going to be rumbling. "It's too early to talk about the title battle. F1 is a world without a stop. Only one of the 21 races is over. We can do it, and we must use it firmly from now on and connect in the future "

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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by PlatinumZealot » Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:59 am

Good job wazari and co.
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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by Thunder18 » Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:34 pm

+1, also it's good that there seems to be no issue with fuel usage too!!

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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by Hino » Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:48 pm

From Reddit, Toto congratulates Honda's F1 boss Masashi Yamamoto. And yes he speaks english.

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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by foneFanatiq » Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:12 am

Hino wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:48 pm
From Reddit, Toto congratulates Honda's F1 boss Masashi Yamamoto. And yes he speaks english.
https://streamable.com/64jp6
This was fantastic to see. =D>

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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by jagunx51 » Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:23 am

Hino wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:48 pm
From Reddit, Toto congratulates Honda's F1 boss Masashi Yamamoto. And yes he speaks english.
https://streamable.com/64jp6
I thought you are gonna talk about Honda PU :mrgreen:
............!!!!

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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by PlatinumZealot » Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:56 am

If wolff notices the power then it must be infront of renault!
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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by NL_Fer » Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:47 am

I believe Honda can develop through the season. They have shown it every year. They made a lousy start with a handicaped 2015 design, but even that has been improved in 2016.

They can improve, but don’t be fooled by Melbourne. Years of low-power Renault units, have pushed Redbull into creating low drag, efficiënt DF chassis. They also need to find more total DF, to make use of any extra Honda horsepower. Topspeed is not everything. But i know they can both pull it of.

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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by Capharol » Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:09 pm

foneFanatiq wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:12 am
Hino wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:48 pm
From Reddit, Toto congratulates Honda's F1 boss Masashi Yamamoto. And yes he speaks english.
https://streamable.com/64jp6
This was fantastic to see. =D>
this reaction and the words of Toto shows clearly, Honda is close again and that they are competitive this year, but Bahrain and China will tell us the true story on how close Honda really is
Strive for continuous improvement, instead of perfection.
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