Silly Season 2018/2019

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Re: Silly Season 2018/2019

Post by langwadt » Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:51 am

WaikeCU wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:39 am
JordanMugen wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:08 am
WaikeCU wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:58 am
He just needs to know where his future is heading.
Kubica should secure a solid drive in Super Formula or Indycar, instead of waiting around for an F1 drive! A championship win there (say in Japan) would open the door to an F1 return! :D
This would not work simply because Kubica is getting too old. If he goes to indycar, I expect him to remain there and not come back to F1.
Kubica is 33, hasn't driven an F1 car in anger in 8 years and never in the current formula, I can't see how he is going
to get a seat

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Re: Silly Season 2018/2019

Post by Sebi80 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:15 pm

Kubica=Ferrari

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Re: Silly Season 2018/2019

Post by marmer » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:59 pm

Sebi80 wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:15 pm
Kubica=Ferrari
Sources would be good or I will want what your smoking

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Re: Silly Season 2018/2019

Post by NathanOlder » Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:05 pm

marmer wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:59 pm
Sebi80 wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:15 pm
Kubica=Ferrari
Sources would be good or I will want what your smoking
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/kubi ... s/3205610/

https://www.pitpass.com/63399/Kubica-li ... at-Ferrari
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Re: Silly Season 2018/2019

Post by Raleigh » Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:44 pm

As development driver. Doesn't mean a lot.

He wouldn't even be reserve driver even according to the pitpass article.

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Re: Silly Season 2018/2019

Post by Manoah2u » Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:27 am

IIRC he was in negotiations with Ferrari before his rally accident whilst still driving for Renault.

I think Kubica knows he's just not gonna race in F1.
Coughing up 20 million is a serious thing, where is he ever going to get the sponsors to do that, just to pay off his insurance?
He wouldn't have earned a single dollar yet, so pretty hard to achieve, when the question still remains whether he'll even be able
to get along with the speed of the pack. Williams right now is a cr*p team so he'd only be driving at the back, but even then,
if he'd be beaten by Sirotkin this year, or by Russell next year, that's not good for either himself nor his 'legacy'.

I think he knows this and knows he's just not gonna get a race seat. Then there's an opportunity to work at Ferrari, get good payment,
do development work for F1 cars, and probably get the chance to race Ferrari racecars (not f1) in certain classes or demo's.
Dumpster sounds so much more classy. It's the diamond of the cesspools.

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Re: Silly Season 2018/2019

Post by netoperek » Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:44 pm

I wouldn't be so sure about those alleged 20 milions. I have never read any solid source other than retold rumors of unknown origin. IIRC, those started back when Palmer was useless in Renault and Robert was a candidate to replace him for few races. Some said back then that he would have to have an insurance costing as much as it costs for whole season only to start in couple of races. That then escalated quickly into what we can read today. I might be wrong obviously, but it doesn't seem very plausible, considering that here have never been any sources claiming that he ever got that kind on money after his accident.

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Re: Silly Season 2018/2019

Post by PlatinumZealot » Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:15 pm

20 million is absurd. Sergei and Lance got seats for less than that.

Hmm. Actually F1 is running out of paid seats!

Sauber is under Fiat umbrella - don't need your money.

Torro Rosso will only give tests for cash.

Force India has been bought out and locked out by two billionaire boys.

Haas doesn't care for pay drivers and probably never will.

Renault is factory owned and serious about competing.

Williams is the only pay to play setup right now!
Sad.
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Re: Silly Season 2018/2019

Post by Big Tea » Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:41 pm

Manoah2u wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:27 am
IIRC he was in negotiations with Ferrari before his rally accident whilst still driving for Renault.

I think Kubica knows he's just not gonna race in F1.
Coughing up 20 million is a serious thing, where is he ever going to get the sponsors to do that, just to pay off his insurance?
He wouldn't have earned a single dollar yet, so pretty hard to achieve, when the question still remains whether he'll even be able
to get along with the speed of the pack. Williams right now is a cr*p team so he'd only be driving at the back, but even then,
if he'd be beaten by Sirotkin this year, or by Russell next year, that's not good for either himself nor his 'legacy'.

I think he knows this and knows he's just not gonna get a race seat. Then there's an opportunity to work at Ferrari, get good payment,
do development work for F1 cars, and probably get the chance to race Ferrari racecars (not f1) in certain classes or demo's.
I do not think the problem (or cost) is for his next racing insurance, but for his previous cover.
He says he was 'paid out' as he could no longer drive a race car (I really do not know where or when I read it, so will not debate if anyone corrects me) and if he now becomes a F1 driver again, I would assume the insurance company will chase him for some repayment of his awarded damage.

If he put a good case forward for his projected earnings at the time, it could easily come to 20 million, of which they will now want a chunk back as he is earning as a driver again, which he claimed he could not.
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Re: Silly Season 2018/2019

Post by JordanMugen » Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:23 am

Sebi80 wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:15 pm
Kubica=Ferrari
...in GTE? :wink:

It would seem the most plausible place where Kubica would join and drive as a Ferrari driver. Much like Fisichella.

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Re: Silly Season 2018/2019

Post by zgred » Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:09 pm

Kubica has Williams F1 seat offer for 2019
motorsport.com wrote:Robert Kubica is understood to have a race drive on offer from Williams for the 2019 Formula 1 season, as well as a chance to take a reserve role with Ferrari.

...

Kubica says he will make a decision on his future in the next few days, after this weekend’s Brazilian Grand Prix.

“I think we are quite close to the decision,” Kubica told Motorsport.com. "From my point of view I'm getting there, and I have a deadline very soon, in my head let's say. It will be within a few days, what I decide, what I want to do, and what I think is the best direction for me.
:?: :shock: [-o<

Edit: Now this very same article title is: "Kubica in frame for 2019 Williams drive" and Polish media is reporting outrage in Williams leading to the title change. Silly Season keeps on fighting for survival.
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Re: Silly Season 2018/2019

Post by marmer » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:47 pm

zgred wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:09 pm
Kubica has Williams F1 seat offer for 2019
motorsport.com wrote:Robert Kubica is understood to have a race drive on offer from Williams for the 2019 Formula 1 season, as well as a chance to take a reserve role with Ferrari.

...

Kubica says he will make a decision on his future in the next few days, after this weekend’s Brazilian Grand Prix.

“I think we are quite close to the decision,” Kubica told Motorsport.com. "From my point of view I'm getting there, and I have a deadline very soon, in my head let's say. It will be within a few days, what I decide, what I want to do, and what I think is the best direction for me.
:?: :shock: [-o<
Kubica better not be playing with us I don't want to be blue balled again

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Re: Silly Season 2018/2019

Post by kptaylor » Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:47 pm

Could be Williams playing Toto for an engine deal to take Ocon...