Chinese GP under threat likely cancelled

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Was a GP cancelled in advance in the past before? If so, was it just postponed?

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MtthsMlw wrote:
03 Feb 2020, 11:42
Was a GP cancelled in advance in the past before? If so, was it just postponed?
Bahrain 2011 was firstly postponed due to civil unrest and scheduled to run in October, but they couldn't agree on re-hosting and then it was just removed from the calendar that year, leaving a gap.
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Manoah2u wrote:
03 Feb 2020, 10:44
No way the GP will happen unless in the coming weeks some wonder cure appears.

No single soul will have interest going there with the infection risk, and F1 certainly doesn't want to carry the weight of being a transmitter of this killer virus.
I also highly doubt the drivers or teams themselves would want to go, so i concider the Chinese GP actually happeing on 0%.
We'll be at 200,000 cases 14 days from now. This thread should be re-named 'Are all 2020 GP's under threat of cancellation due to coronavirus?'

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Can i ask why they just can't swap it with Suzuka?

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Wass85 wrote:
03 Feb 2020, 15:08
Can i ask why they just can't swap it with Suzuka?
I'd say because Suzuka has not planned the race on the dates of China,
so that would be problematic for tickets, and the short time left for
exposure and all that is needed. Apart from the 'legal' work with contracts signed, etc.
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Manoah2u wrote:
03 Feb 2020, 16:40
Wass85 wrote:
03 Feb 2020, 15:08
Can i ask why they just can't swap it with Suzuka?
I'd say because Suzuka has not planned the race on the dates of China,
so that would be problematic for tickets, and the short time left for
exposure and all that is needed. Apart from the 'legal' work with contracts signed, etc.
It maybe an inconvenience but that's surely better than canceling a GP.

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Wass85 wrote:
03 Feb 2020, 17:12
Manoah2u wrote:
03 Feb 2020, 16:40
Wass85 wrote:
03 Feb 2020, 15:08
Can i ask why they just can't swap it with Suzuka?
I'd say because Suzuka has not planned the race on the dates of China,
so that would be problematic for tickets, and the short time left for
exposure and all that is needed. Apart from the 'legal' work with contracts signed, etc.
It maybe an inconvenience but that's surely better than canceling a GP.
It’s not a matter of inconvenience, It’s about the number of people that have bought tickets, my travel and hotel arrangements and booked holidays & time off work

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the EDGE wrote:
03 Feb 2020, 17:17
Wass85 wrote:
03 Feb 2020, 17:12
Manoah2u wrote:
03 Feb 2020, 16:40


I'd say because Suzuka has not planned the race on the dates of China,
so that would be problematic for tickets, and the short time left for
exposure and all that is needed. Apart from the 'legal' work with contracts signed, etc.
It maybe an inconvenience but that's surely better than canceling a GP.
It’s not a matter of inconvenience, It’s about the number of people that have bought tickets, my travel and hotel arrangements and booked holidays & time off work
You will still have done all that if it's cancelled won't you?

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Wass85 wrote:
03 Feb 2020, 17:12
Manoah2u wrote:
03 Feb 2020, 16:40
Wass85 wrote:
03 Feb 2020, 15:08
Can i ask why they just can't swap it with Suzuka?
I'd say because Suzuka has not planned the race on the dates of China,
so that would be problematic for tickets, and the short time left for
exposure and all that is needed. Apart from the 'legal' work with contracts signed, etc.
It maybe an inconvenience but that's surely better than canceling a GP.
Technically you would be cancelling two GPs worth of contracts, logistics and tickets on the hope that when the dust settles the cost (to whom?) would be less.

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nzjrs wrote:
03 Feb 2020, 18:09
Wass85 wrote:
03 Feb 2020, 17:12
Manoah2u wrote:
03 Feb 2020, 16:40


I'd say because Suzuka has not planned the race on the dates of China,
so that would be problematic for tickets, and the short time left for
exposure and all that is needed. Apart from the 'legal' work with contracts signed, etc.
It maybe an inconvenience but that's surely better than canceling a GP.
Technically you would be cancelling two GPs worth of contracts, logistics and tickets on the hope that when the dust settles the cost (to whom?) would be less.
True, However it’s not the people with Chinese Grand Prix tickets I was thinking of, rather those with Suzuka tickets, I would quite rightly demand compensation for lost flights & hotels at the very least

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the EDGE wrote:
03 Feb 2020, 18:15
nzjrs wrote:
03 Feb 2020, 18:09
Wass85 wrote:
03 Feb 2020, 17:12


It maybe an inconvenience but that's surely better than canceling a GP.
Technically you would be cancelling two GPs worth of contracts, logistics and tickets on the hope that when the dust settles the cost (to whom?) would be less.
True, However it’s not the people with Chinese Grand Prix tickets I was thinking of, rather those with Suzuka tickets, I would quite rightly demand compensation for lost flights & hotels at the very least
Exactly. Why would China's problem become Suzuka's problem? To put it a bit blunt.

Perhaps there could be an option to host the GP in a different location, but still 'Chinese GP'.
Like for example we have had the German GP hosted by the Nurburgring, but the Luxemburg GP likewise in the Nurburgring.

Which location would be suitable? Good question, I really miss the Malaysian GP but i believe the infrastructure and track (quality) is no longer acceptable to host an F1 GP and i'm pretty sure there isn't enough time and money available to fix that. A street circuit somewhere? Adelaide? Is there any Superlicene track in the area that could host it?
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Bence wrote:
31 Jan 2020, 19:57
Just to put things into perspective: the common flu kills 650.000 people yearly. Where's the panic? SARS & MERS are coronavirus strains too - yet we hardly remember them. Don't live the programmed fear porn.
People are being locked in their homes, rounded up and relocated and arrested for just talking about it. That --- raises eyebrows. As this is an unknown entity at the moment it makes a lot more sense to be cautious than to risk an even more severe outbreak. The flu is everywhere and common, so it will cause more death, this virus isn't as of now.

SARS and MERS are indeed coronaviruses. SARS was very mild, MERS was pretty nasty and good that it got dealt with quickly. We ultimately don't know what this one will be like yet, it doesn't help that the Chinese authorities are trying to hide its impact and spread.

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Bence wrote:
31 Jan 2020, 19:57
Just to put things into perspective: the common flu kills 650.000 people yearly. Where's the panic? SARS & MERS are coronavirus strains too - yet we hardly remember them. Don't live the programmed fear porn.
Ebola usually only kills a few dozen people each year. Let's not worry about that either then. :roll:
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Just_a_fan wrote:
03 Feb 2020, 19:50
Bence wrote:
31 Jan 2020, 19:57
Just to put things into perspective: the common flu kills 650.000 people yearly. Where's the panic? SARS & MERS are coronavirus strains too - yet we hardly remember them. Don't live the programmed fear porn.
Ebola usually only kills a few dozen people each year. Let's not worry about that either then. :roll:
People have been dying for a long time. We will never stop that.

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The more we learn about the coronavirus the worse it seems. I think by April very few people will want to travel to China to see the GP, and that may be enough of a motivation for FIA to cancel it. Besides the PR risk it will also be a financial net loss. The have cancelled previous GP's for political violence issues so this is not such a new adjustment. Better be safe than sorry.