Manoah2u wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:48 pmehm no, it's not. there were actual doctors, nurses, many medical personell clearly stating why the numbers aren't true and all have 'disappeared'
no, actually no. even during the supposed region lockdowns, many were still travelling to many european countries, there have been multiple examples of 'travelers' covering their symptoms through ingenious means so they could pass tests despite carrying the disease and as such spreading to the world.China kept the disease under control by locking down and entire region. Real lock down, not that wish washy lock downs. On top of that everyone have to wear masks in whole country, on top of that all the public transport closed in whole country, on top of that everyone who got the disease or might have interacted with a positive person was in quarantine for 2 weeks, (now it is actually 4 weeks). They did this for 2 months without any exception, and not surprisingly disease is now very rare and mostly imported.
there's also proof the disease was out far earlier than any 'official' reports mention which means numbers are far higher
you mention two of the biggest political tools in the shed.In contrast, most of the western countries did a big *nothing*. some of the leaders (Trump, Bolsonara were the poster childs of this) even encouraged people *not* to wear mask and keep business open to "protect" stock markets.
you fail to mention for example how Spain did a huge lockdown and came down hard on it.
Compare the deaths in spain, 28.000 plus deaths, vs 4000 in china, where the ENTIRE COUNTRY has LESS inhabitants than JUST the hubei province, where the virus originated and medical facilities had to be built 'overnight', then it's absolutely clear that the total numbers are 100% false.
you're clearly the blind one here, better roll your eyes to yourself bud.What is laughable is your blind belief China cannot perform better under this circumstances.
Go read scientific articles in *Lancet* about covid19. There, you will see *real* data.
This is an editorial from Lancet, a good starting point:
https://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals ... 1637-8.pdf
You are believing in BS coming from the "two of the biggest political tools in the shed" as you put it.
Chinese response to covid19 was almost perfect apart from the very initial hesitation and it will be a case study in the future for public health scientists/providers about how to handle a dangerous virus. Even that initial hesitation is understandable, when you consider there are few cases and the lock down of the whole economy. People in other countries with **millions** of cases still cannot be as decisive as China, with couple hundred cases, was! Scale is off the chart between the responses, not even comparable, really.
By the way, forgot to mention, Spain (also for whole Europe basically) lock downs were all too late (after 1000s of patients were in hospitals) and also not real lock downs except Spain and some regions of Italy. Asian countries were successful, rest of the world utterly failed.
Final note, it is still not 100% known where the disease was originated. There are confirmed cases from Europe from basically same time when the first Chinese case recorded (Nov-Dec, 2019).
Anyhow, sorry for the offtopic.. I just cannot stand misinformation which become the norm nowadays unfortunately..