El Scorchio wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:40 am
nzjrs wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:34 am
El Scorchio wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 03, 2020 12:16 am
It wasn't compulsory aside from on public transport until last week, I believe. (24th July, I think.)
Still there are a number of people who refuse for whatever reason. (selfishness? ignorance? 'personal freedom'?)
Exactly yeah, no one was doing it before it was *required*. IMO Compliance now is very high, >95%. Prior to that UK wrote only that it was "recommended" and other weak and unclear guidelines. The way in which the official government advice here is so flaccid is something I was not expecting to discover.
Agree. The majority of people are complying which is good to see. However I know it’s problematic in the way that shop workers are unable or unwilling to strictly enforce it for fear of altercations. (I can’t believe some people would rather get into a fight with someone than just put a mask on for 15 minutes to go shopping...) and of course it’s impossible for the police to check on everything all the time.
While the government here certainly could have handled things better I do have a bit of sympathy. They have to walk a fine line between being strict in telling the public what they must do and making sure civil order is kept. Would be a disaster if they tried to go too far and it led to civil unrest. I guess that’s the game a lot of governments are having to play. I feel the UK and US are two very hard countries to govern in that respect. Although at least they seem to be trying in the UK as opposed to the US!!!
I do wish we’d made a better job of it here, but I certainly wouldn’t want to be trying to manage this situation, for sure. It must be every leader’s nightmare.
It seems quite simple to me. Global health crisis. National rules put in place along with Marshall Law. Military Police on the streets to assist civilian Police in enforcing them. We're an island, so close all borders, except for goods which have to be properly decontaminated. Actually enforce lockdown with actual punishments for people who break them, not "education" as the Police have been doing. Complete and total ban on mass gatherings, I don't care what the cause. Proper testing and proper education for the public - which would include instructing social media to remove any posts with false information claiming to be science. Do it properly and you keep your numbers down and can wipe the virus out within your country.
But I'm biased as I've lost colleagues to the virus and had to tell family and friends of patients that their loved one is going to die from the virus. I haven't seen my own family since March because I don't want to risk carrying it from a patient to them. Oh and I was very close to ending up in ICU myself with it earlier this year.
So I have zero patience for people who think they know better as far too many members of the public seem to.
And to bring it back on topic, if an F1 driver was photographed not keeping to the social distancing rules, imposed by the FIA to keep everyone in the sport safe, and then tested positive for Covid-19, that driver should immediately receive a lifetime ban from the sport.