Different ethical boards. US vs UK. In the US money talks louder, in the UK it's harder to get ethical approval.Tommy Cookers wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:48 pmPfizer didadrianjordan wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:31 pmHow do you get ethical approval to test a vaccine on an age group vastly more at risk of dying and who have been advised to shield?? .....Tommy Cookers wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:21 pmOAZ seems unable to test their vaccine on old people
and no 'expert' says that vaccinations will prevent all deaths in the vulnerable groups eg 90% is the best I've heard
in-population infection rates have fallen only slowly with the lockdown - and have already stopped falling in many areas
how won't they again and soon rocket up ? (it's not oldies that spread the infection)
their tests had something like 5 vaccinated deaths and 106 unvaccinated deaths
this 'immunity score' suggests about a twentyfold greater chance of survival (than without any vaccination)
nobody is telling the OAZ-vaccinated to shield for another 6 or 12 months ......
but eg TV news (at the whim of self-serving editors and writers) has spouted on about 'hugging your grandchildren'
so how many more people will die ? .....
(not unreasonably thinking that 'full immunity' means that they are immune)
There will never be full immunity, all the vaccines do is reduce the risk of infection, reduce the risk of any infection becoming serious and reduce the possibility of any infection reaching the contagious stage.
How many more will die?? Depends on your timescale. It's not unreasonable to think that we could see at least another 50% on top of the current totals by the end of 2021 depending on any new variants that emerge.