So what happened to the new teams?

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Updated :
BBC F1 wrote:Williams announced on Monday that they intend to enter next season's campaign.

McLaren, BMW Sauber, Toyota, Renault, Red Bull Racing, Toro Rosso and Brawn GP have now all followed suit.

The move would appear to bring an end to the recent row with the sport's governing body, the FIA, over the voluntary budget cap.

A statement on behalf of the Fota said: "Fota confirms all its members' long-term commitment to be involved in the FIA Formula One World Championship and has unanimously agreed further and significant actions to substantially reduce the costs of competing in the championship in the next three years."
This follows on from my previous post, so Ferrari are also included in the list : I think that the standoff is now effectively over, besides quibbling over the details.

Thank god for that.

Can we get on with the racing now?
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SO . . . all the FOTA teams are in "conditionally."

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30 car grid [-o<

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now Litespeed have confirmed an entry

USF1
Prodrive
CAmpos F1
Lola
Litespeed
and a possible Espilon


Prodrive & USF1 Lokk pretty solid, Lola up there too... the rest a little more iffy

If would be nice to see them all at Austrailia next year, maybe they can use Practise 3 as a prequal

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The entry today is just to lodge your intention to compete. It does not get you a place on the grid.

Any teams without the necessary means or a demonstrable commitment wil not be selected to be in F1
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natef1 wrote:30 car grid [-o<
I do think that they'll be liniting the grid to 26 cars : I really doubt that they'd allow more teams, given the sheer logistics of fitting 15 modern teams (with all of their equipment) into somewhere like Monaco ... That'd be far too much like fitting a quart into a pintpot!
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FOTA have aggreed to conditionally enter!!!

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 91,00.html

I sence a posible 28 or dream 30 car grid hopefully!!!

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ESPImperium wrote:FOTA have aggreed to conditionally enter!!!

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 91,00.html

I sence a posible 28 or dream 30 car grid hopefully!!!
You're a tad late, mate ;)
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Senna, DAvidson, Sato, Klien, Grosjean, Di Resta... alot of smiling drivers out there right now

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It was allways the intention to limit the entry. While originally 12 teams were the limit they later agreed to widen it to 13. With the 10 FOTA teams now on board there will be rejections and everybody can speculat who it will be.

I think that Prodrive will be #1 with FIA due to Dave Richards running this quest for 4 years now.

USF1 will be irresistable for FOM because of the American angle.

The 3rd team is everyones guess. Probably the finacially strongest will make it or a name like Mike Gascoyne will make the difference?
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Autosport wrote:The Formula One Teams' Association said, however, that their entries were conditional on a new Concorde Agreement being signed by all parties before 12th June.
FOTA wrote:All FOTA teams' entries for the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship have been submitted today on the understanding that (a) all FOTA teams will be permitted to compete during the 2010 Formula One season on an identical regulatory basis and (b) that they may only be accepted as a whole,
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75680

Now we see the conditions attached ... there may be some life in the controversy yet ...
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Why not let them fight it out on track? Yes nobody wants to spend the cash if not guaranteed a spot, but if they are confident enough in there abilities they should show up in Australia and strap em in.

How did they used to do it back in the day when there were more entries than grid spots?

imagine, bump day at the Australian GP!

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gridwalker wrote:
Autosport wrote:....
Now we see the conditions attached ... there may be some life in the controversy yet ...

I see this largely as embroidery. Nobody wanted to eliminate any existing teams or have different sets of rules. The technical advantage for new teams was just a trick to make the cap voluntary and satisfy the Ferrari veto right. The Concord Agreement is also just a formality for the FIA. They have declared for some time that they would sign it. Face saving that was expected all along the way.
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I think that all entrants will be granted.

But I wonder if they will start with a new GP format with so many cars...

If enough new teams sign up, could we possibly see a 2GP weekend?

Does this mean that the 2010 Published F1 regulations only have the change in the way the cap is stepped down, and doesn't affect the technical freedoms? IE: The cap changed to 100M instead of 40M, but the rules still apply?

2010 is gonna be effing SWEET if they follow the published cap regs with the only addendum being the budget cap number.

Will the FIA publish revised regs?

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Turbocharged engines had been banned at the end of 1988, as they were felt to be making the sport dangerous, not to mention expensive.
In response to the above, a number of new teams were expected to entered the series, and there would be 39 drivers now competing for 26 spots on the starting grid. A one-hour Pre-Qualifying session was instituted, in order to render Qualifying itself manageable. Not all teams were required to Pre-Qualify, and the group of teams required to do so was revised at the halfway point of the season.
At the start of the season, new (Onyx) or returning (Brabham) teams had to pre-qualify, along with two Osellas and Zakspeeds and single EuroBrun. Four teams who had run single car in 1988 had to run one car in pre-qualifying at the beginning: Dallara, Coloni, Rial and AGS.
At the halfway of the season, Alex Caffi in the 2nd Dallara, both Brabhams and Volker Weidler in the Rial (although he had never got out of pre-qualifying in the 1st half of the season and was soon replaced during the 2nd half of the Season by Pierre-Henri Raphanel) moved up, whilst Gabriele Tarquini's AGS (although he had scored a point for his team), both Larrousse Cars and Roberto Moreno's Coloni, which had only qualify three times and never finished a Grand Prix in the 1st half of 1989 were demoted.