Group Lotus buys Renault F1 Team

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Re: Group Lotus buys Renault F1 Team

Post by andrew » Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:11 pm

So do we have 2 fake Lotus teams now? Is Proton (fake Lotus mk I) F1 merging with Renault (fake Lotus mk II) or are there going to be 2 seperate entities on the grid?

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Re: Renault R31

Post by Formula None » Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:13 pm

siskue2005 wrote:Why do they have that RED total color there!! :shock:
that looks awfull, they should paint that black too, ASAP! #-o
Well, how much more black could it be?
imightbewrong wrote:The livery for 2011 as Lotus Renault F1
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IMHO it looked good as a render, but came out awful in real life :?
I guess this continues the fine Renault tradition of terrible liveries, carrying into the Lotus era. Last year was an exception, though, IMO. Is this the R31 or a painted R30 promo?

The RW slot looks huge, the front wing seems new (with an F-duct hole?! What is that? Or just a scallop shape cut into the cascade with a shadow beneath it?), and the vanes at the front brake duct look different.

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Re: Renault R31

Post by Giblet » Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:16 pm

It's quite obviously not the 31. No team will be done yet, no team will be rolling out without some kind of announcement, and rarely without their drivers attending.
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Re: Group Lotus buys Renault F1 Team

Post by conni » Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:20 pm

team lotus is definately not fake they do actually build their own car as opposed to sticking their name on someone elses strange thing is that although proton own group lotus/cars they also sponsored team lotus/racing in 2010

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Re: Renault R31

Post by Formula None » Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:23 pm

Giblet wrote:It's quite obviously not the 31. No team will be done yet, no team will be rolling out without some kind of announcement, and rarely without their drivers attending.
Oh, you mean they don't bring out the drivers for someone's random cell phone snaps? Silly us. Some of those bits do seem updated though.

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Re: Group Lotus buys Renault F1 Team

Post by autogyro » Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:28 pm

Just sticking the Lotus F1 name on something else can never work conni.
The old Team was not a big car manufacturing company, it was more like a club team for the best in F1.
That old team feeling will never be brought back.
Proton will make a huge mistake if they fight the established Lotus team.
Even if they win legaly they will gain nothing.
Perhaps someone should advise them.

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Re: Renault R31

Post by ESPImperium » Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:28 pm

Giblet wrote:It's quite obviously not the 31. No team will be done yet, no team will be rolling out without some kind of announcement, and rarely without their drivers attending.
Most teams will have chassis number 01 already rolled out by now, exept Ferarri who will have 287 and Hispania as they dont seem to have a chassis at the momment.

01 will generally be used as the seat fitting, with exeption to Team Lotus (Tonys Team) and McLaren who get a polyfoam chassis mock up first and then get each driver in that for a seat fit and then get the drivers to draw arround problem zones.

From what i kno;, McLaren, Mercedes and Toro Rosso have all had their drivers in for seat fits and chassis 01 fired up with the engine installed, albeit a 2010 powerplant and no KERS installed as well.

But that Renault is a R30 and not R31. And no the R31, Mod, can you change the title of the thread to the Lotus Renault R31 now.

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Re: Group Lotus buys Renault F1 Team

Post by ESPImperium » Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:31 pm

From Mike Gascgoines Twitter page on 2011 livery now Lotus Renault seem to be using the JPS era livery:
Green and Yellow - 77%. Black and gold - 15%. Red and gold 4%. Others - 4%. Seems pretty conclusive

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Re: Group Lotus buys Renault F1 Team

Post by segedunum » Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:33 pm

n smikle wrote:Anybody notice that there are no Russain sponsor logos on the car? Wonder what is the reason for that...
It means goodbye Petrov, that's what it means. However, I can't see the Lotus money lasting for very long because there isn't any. Fernandes will end up mopping up this entire mess, mark my words. I think his only mistake has been not anticipating this and buying into an existing team.

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Re: Group Lotus buys Renault F1 Team

Post by Giblet » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:15 pm

Actually fellas, Snoras Bank is Lithuanian.

Can't get much closer to Russia than that.
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Re: Renault R31

Post by Florio » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:51 pm

imightbewrong wrote:The livery for 2011 as Lotus Renault F1
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IMHO it looked good as a render, but came out awful in real life :?
Man thats ugly.

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Re: Group Lotus buys Renault F1 Team

Post by Intego » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:53 pm

Petrov apparently had no deal with his sponsors for 2011. I'm sure he'll get new ones. And I don't think Lotus wants Lada to remain as a sponsor. :lol:
The order is: First announce driver, then put on logos.
And Bahar wants Petrov to stay.
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Re: Group Lotus buys Renault F1 Team

Post by GTO » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:14 pm

This reminds me of how new adult lions take over a pride, they often kill the existing young to eliminate the chance of any rivalry against offspring he later fathers.

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Re: Group Lotus buys Renault F1 Team

Post by Arunas » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:22 pm

Giblet wrote:Actually fellas, Snoras Bank is Lithuanian.

Can't get much closer to Russia than that.
Snoras Bank is active in country with 3 mil. population, even not the biggest one. Of course, owner is Russian (Konversbank).. 8)
Anybody has idea, what sense is to put it's name on Formula 1 car???

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Re: Group Lotus buys Renault F1 Team

Post by Intego » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:47 pm

Russians ought to run into depts to visit F1 spectacle.
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