F1 Beating Aerodynamics

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humble sabot wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:32 am
Slo Poke wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 12:46 pm
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What does any of that have to do with aerodynamic choices? What the heck "item" are you talking about?
Humble Sabot.
Believe me my Friend I would really like to tell/explain to you exactly what the ‘item’ is. I really would. Alas that is what I unfortunately did back in 2013 with Mercedes Brackely. Whereupon I was as good as told through legal jargon ‘now piss off’ and here I quote ‘as none of your future letters will be read by anyone of any consequence’. With the ‘item’ being worth billions you can probably see why I am reluctant to disclose it on this or any other forum.
The device in question has been offered to Red Bull twice. On the second occasion Mr. Horner’s PA informed me that Mr. Horner would only accept, what is my invention, in letter form.
As for Honda, who knows or cares?

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You sound like autogyro. You're not him are you? :shock:
Turbo says "Dumpster sounds so much more classy. It's the diamond of the cesspools." oh, and "The Dutch fans are drunk. Maybe"

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Greg Locock wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:28 am
You'd go to a fan car.

Failing that here's a shot from my handy ready reckoner.

https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/37b9/ ... es246g.jpg
Greg Locock.
Yes! You are exactly right. It would be a fan car but with a considerable difference.

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Just_a_fan wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:19 pm
You sound like autogyro. You're not him are you? :shock:
Now just you see here Just a Fan! I’ve got delicate sensibilities and I’m simply confused. I’ve confronted Slo Poke about all this and he looked back from the mirror a bit bemused to say the least.

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Slo Poke wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:15 pm
Humble Sabot.
Believe me my Friend I would really like to tell/explain to you exactly what the ‘item’ is. I really would. Alas that is what I unfortunately did back in 2013 with Mercedes Brackely. Whereupon I was as good as told through legal jargon ‘now piss off’ and here I quote ‘as none of your future letters will be read by anyone of any consequence’. With the ‘item’ being worth billions you can probably see why I am reluctant to disclose it on this or any other forum.
The device in question has been offered to Red Bull twice. On the second occasion Mr. Horner’s PA informed me that Mr. Horner would only accept, what is my invention, in letter form.
As for Honda, who knows or cares?
So, magic? With no description, it's as good as magic. What's the point?
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humble sabot wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:54 am
Slo Poke wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:15 pm
Humble Sabot.
Believe me my Friend I would really like to tell/explain to you exactly what the ‘item’ is. I really would. Alas that is what I unfortunately did back in 2013 with Mercedes Brackely. Whereupon I was as good as told through legal jargon ‘now piss off’ and here I quote ‘as none of your future letters will be read by anyone of any consequence’. With the ‘item’ being worth billions you can probably see why I am reluctant to disclose it on this or any other forum.
The device in question has been offered to Red Bull twice. On the second occasion Mr. Horner’s PA informed me that Mr. Horner would only accept, what is my invention, in letter form.
As for Honda, who knows or cares?
So, magic? With no description, it's as good as magic. What's the point?
HATRED.


I’ll put something together. May pm you or simply splash it out for all, or for where it was ‘intended’ shortly. Even though it’s gonna be difficult to keep an overwhelming desire to destroy in check.

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Wasn’t nuffink I done! I never did nothin’! Okay, I sent ‘im a private message... but I didn’t use any magic!..?

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Of course Gordon Murray's new thing is a fan car.

The other essential is AWD with independent torque vectoring. All electric is probably the easiest way to get there.

Next item. Four wheel steer-by-wire. Let a computer operate each tyre at its optimum slip angle (the torque vectoring system already has each tyre operating at its optimum slip ratio).
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Gruntguru.
Very interesting post my Friend, alas Mr. Murray appears to have missed a trick. His ‘actual’ car is hampered by road regulation, whereas my ‘dream’ Valkyrie would not be. That would mainly be because, for road use, my f1 beating levels of downforce would be switched off, out of harms way. Even so, it would still remain capable of producing downforce. Blimey! Doesn’t seem possible does it, troubling as that may be, it’s perfectly feasible.
Torque vectoring is presently being used in Grand Prix racing by both merc and Ferrari, so that’s not so new and I’ll bet on both those cars it’s being governed by computer. So! Gruntguru. What else you got?

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As far as I understand TV is illegal so I doubt anyone are using it.
Not the engineer at Force India

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OOh another one of these. these are the best we should hook him up with the guy that had the magic engine.
You have obviously never heard of the flynfrog car. It does everything yours does but 14% better.

If you want anyone to take you seriously bring data or else go away.

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Tim. Wright.
TV’s illegal eh? How about a computer controlled, solidly locked differential that answers to steering input, into and throughout any corner type to exit and beyond? That also happens to be fully compliant to all types of braking and acceleration phases.

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A controlled clutch plate diff, as used for around 20 years now, is not torque vectoring. It can only bias torque from the faster wheel to the slower and not the other way around. TV systems can do both.

So no, it's not torque vectoring.
Not the engineer at Force India

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Flynfrog and a Moderator no less.
Well,..! There’s a thing.
I have to admit I’m not overly fond of being presented with an ultimatum on what the opening poster declared a fun thread. So,.. what-a-to-do? If by chance you yourself are not able to, would you mind asking Stephen to terminate my association with the Forum completely please. Bye.

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flynfrog wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 3:42 pm
OOh another one of these. these are the best we should hook him up with the guy that had the magic engine.
You have obviously never heard of the flynfrog car. It does everything yours does but 14% better.

If you want anyone to take you seriously bring data or else go away.
:lol: :lol: =D>
Turbo says "Dumpster sounds so much more classy. It's the diamond of the cesspools." oh, and "The Dutch fans are drunk. Maybe"