HRT F112 Cosworth

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Will HRT be in Q2 in 2012?

Yes - at the start of the Season
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5%
Yes - by Germany
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7%
No - not in 2012
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54%
Never!
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Total votes: 307

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MIKEY_!
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As it is they can gain some more data on tires to compare them with last year.

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dice782
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n smikle wrote:They just have to add a few more layers of carbon, and an extra block of honeycomb just to get through for testing. They can redo and rehomologate the nose later during the season.
Why cant they do that in a week? Does the resin need a certain amount of time to cure or do they need o redesign and test it themselves?

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HRT need to just restrenghten the parts that failed and retest them, That is supposed to happen this coming week. So they are just delayed by a week. I remember back to 2010 when they had literally no cars, things have progressed since then.

It's going to be intresting to see between Marussia and HRT to see who can get their car upto speed the quickest!

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You need to produce something reproduceable .So slapping on two layers of carbon won´t do much good .
But sure you can lay up a nosecone and cure it in less than one week.
But firsst you need to understand why your calcs and simulations did not translate to realworld results..then you may decide to alter fibre angles or plies or what about manufacturing issues? Before changing the material spec you´d surely first check all proceedures and curing ovens ,shelf life ,storage conditions you name it and THEN start modifying the homologation part.

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Strength isn't the point of those test. You can slam a metal beam into a wall and it won't break, but chances are the driver sitting on the other end of that beam will be snapped in half.

Consequently, just increasing strength won't do you much good in those test. You need the parts to break, but they need to break in a specific way that maximizes energy dispersion. Or rather, a way that disperses energy to a level so the part complies with the regulations.

Slap on some carbonfibre layers and you run the risk of having the part snap in pieces instead of disintegrate gradually.

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marcush. wrote:You need to produce something reproduceable .So slapping on two layers of carbon won´t do much good .
But sure you can lay up a nosecone and cure it in less than one week.
But firsst you need to understand why your calcs and simulations did not translate to realworld results..then you may decide to alter fibre angles or plies or what about manufacturing issues? Before changing the material spec you´d surely first check all proceedures and curing ovens ,shelf life ,storage conditions you name it and THEN start modifying the homologation part.
JMN wrote:Strength isn't the point of those test. You can slam a metal beam into a wall and it won't break, but chances are the driver sitting on the other end of that beam will be snapped in half.

Consequently, just increasing strength won't do you much good in those test. You need the parts to break, but they need to break in a specific way that maximizes energy dispersion. Or rather, a way that disperses energy to a level so the part complies with the regulations.

Slap on some carbonfibre layers and you run the risk of having the part snap in pieces instead of disintegrate gradually.

Thanks that does make more sense now, hopefully they will have a better chance next time round.

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MIKEY_!
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Could the six people who said HRT will be in Q2 at the start of the year please make themselves know to the nearest mental asylum at the earliest opportunity :lol:

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raymondu999
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Never say never. De La Rosa for 2012 WDC! :lol:
失败者找理由,成功者找方法

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MIKEY_!
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That would be awesome!!!!

My world would be complete.

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dice782
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MIKEY_! wrote:That would be awesome!!!!

My world would be complete.
HRT might accidentally/randomly create a master piece, not impossible but very unlikely. Every conceivable combinations of events is possible but their chances of happening differ vastly.

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MIKEY_! wrote:Could the six people who said HRT will be in Q2 at the start of the year please make themselves know to the nearest mental asylum at the earliest opportunity :lol:
I am not one of those, but until HRT is on track and last everything can happen ;)

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hrt wrote::D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

http://www.hispaniaracing.com/en/notici ... uebas.html

=D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>
The incorporation of Clos is another step in the team’s aspirations of establishing itself as a platform for young talents to reach the pinnacle of world motorsport
Pedro De La Rosa; 40 Years old
Narain Kartikeyan; 35 Years old

Just saying
"Bite my shiny metal ass" - Bender

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Just saying what?????

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wesley123 wrote:
hrt wrote::D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

http://www.hispaniaracing.com/en/notici ... uebas.html

=D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>
The incorporation of Clos is another step in the team’s aspirations of establishing itself as a platform for young talents to reach the pinnacle of world motorsport
Pedro De La Rosa; 40 Years old
Narain Kartikeyan; 35 Years old

Just saying
Ah don't you just love the irony ! :lol:

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