Manor MRT05 Mercedes

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RicME85 wrote:But don't teams like Force India struggle with weight? I'm sure they had issues in recent years.
sure?

I think it where non Mercedes teams struggling with extra extra PU weight... (like Renault team this year, AMUS)

here the 30Kg link
https://translate.google.de/translate?s ... rl&act=url
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Most teams start with a car that is around the weight, about plus minus 10kg or so. The largest cut in weight in the past 6 or so years has been the HRT F110 in 2010, it was 20kg overweight, but by Japan it was 60kg under with a change in materials under the skin. It shed 80kg over the year, and the largest handling improvement setup wise was the ballast as thats how it was faster than the VR-01 that season and just a few tenths behind the T127.

Id recon that the change in power unit would be a percentage of the 30Kg if that figure is true, id recon that up to 7kg of that will be in the latest carbon fibre layup techniques and materials in the chassis, and integration of the side impact panels into the chassis and not being mounted crudely.

I think this chassis will see one major upgrade, but under the skin, if they manage to reduce the ballast free weight by a few more kilos her and there, they can extrapolate more time in ballast position and tuning. And if they get a handle on the setup quick and with enough quality aero upgrades, i think this chassis could easily be a midfield beater. If they get their new thumb nose and new front wing for Australia as i have read, it will be a promising start. They have the technical staff to extract the best out of this car out of the car, lets hope the drivers can do so in the car as well.

Im looking forward to see how it develops as the season goes on.

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A car that is a couple inches shorter will be noticeably lighter as well. That's my first guess.
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"Williams rear end" isn't exactly going to hurt either.
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Mark4211 wrote:New front wing for Manor
https://twitter.com/tgruener/status/710302478424641536
That is an old wing, 2015 spec. The old one is 2014

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Drica wrote:That is an old wing, 2015 spec. The old one is 2014
No, this is the 2015 wing.
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Both the wing used in testing and this update for Austrailia are all new.

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Raleigh wrote:
Drica wrote:That is an old wing, 2015 spec. The old one is 2014
No, this is the 2015 wing.
http://img3.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Man ... 896989.jpg
Both the wing used in testing and this update for Austrailia are all new.
But that new wing looks very simmilar to the one they ran in the finishing part of the season

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I think you might be right as far as Manor running that wing at the end of 2015...

But that was the wing used in launch and testing, which means AMUS has mislabeled the wings, top wing is "old", and the lower wing is new (even though it looks simpler)

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To clarify, the apparent history of Manor/Marussia front wings...

For 2014 and 2015 they used the MR03 wing (picture I showed). Late in 2015 (Brazil?) a new wing was introduced, this is the same wing that the MRT05 was launched and tested with, the wing AMUS has mislabeled as "new" (I didn't know Manor had introduced a new wing during 2015, so thanks for pointing that out). And now there is a new wing (lower of two AMUS pics) which is new for Australia.

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Raleigh wrote:To clarify, the apparent history of Manor/Marussia front wings...

For 2014 and 2015 they used the MR03 wing (picture I showed). Late in 2015 (Brazil?) a new wing was introduced, this is the same wing that the MRT05 was launched and tested with, the wing AMUS has mislabeled as "new" (I didn't know Manor had introduced a new wing during 2015, so thanks for pointing that out). And now there is a new wing (lower of two AMUS pics) which is new for Australia.
You got away with that one! Haha.
This wing actually does look simpler but it looks more ferrari inspired i think

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Nope, Manor had both designs for 2015. The wing with 3 flaps from his tweet is the new wing.

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What happened to the new nose AMS said they were bringing to Melbourne?