Scuderia Ferrari SF70H

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GrizzleBoy
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That is one super flexible floor to the inside of the rear tyre.......the floor is literally flapping!

marvin78
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Were do you see that? Are my eyes so bad? I didn't see any footage where you could see that.

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DVB
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marvin78 wrote:
11 Apr 2017, 11:56
Were do you see that? Are my eyes so bad? I didn't see any footage where you could see that.
F1NAC wrote:
08 Apr 2017, 07:11
edge flap on the floor flexing

https://streamable.com/kpdl4
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atlantis
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Isn't that flapping up and down harmful rather than helpful for airflows?

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DVB
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atlantis wrote:
11 Apr 2017, 12:23
Isn't that flapping up and down harmful rather than helpful for airflows?
Scroll back to the bottom of page 42 in this thread. It's been discussed there and on top of page 43 :)
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Thanks :)

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gandharva
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SF70H - massive flexing of floor. https://twitter.com/Albrodpul/status/850657188330831872 Also Christian Danner (ex racing driver and RTL expert) thinks SF70H does feature illegal floor and frontwing (flexing).
http://soymotor.com/noticias/christian- ... 0-h-932474

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@DVB Thanks.

@gandharva: Danner ist no expert (as RTL is a trsh TV station). He is happy, if he can distinguish betwenn red and blue.

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What are the load tests on the floor? And how are they applied?

Ultimately, a front wing is legal if it passes the necessary tests - even if during the race we see footage of it flexing like mad; Red Bull proved that multiple times.

I suspect it will be the same with the floor (and potentially FIA will look to introduce stronger loads if they don't like what's happening) but must admit I don't know what kind of tests the floor undergoes.

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Ferrari introduced a revised engine cover on the SF70H in Shanghai, which featured a smaller cooling outlet due to fresh local temperatures, as well as a new floor that had been tweaked on the upper surface.

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NOS_ATX
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I am wondering if the flapping piece of floor can generate desired vortex shedding and somehow Ferrari can take advantage of that (some affect to floor/diffuser maybe :?: ).

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F1NAC wrote:
11 Apr 2017, 08:04
CFD :D Here you can see the way how sparks reach diffuser. Love the part where diffuser just sucks in in front of rear tyre
https://twitter.com/FiftyBuckss/status/ ... 5700606977
That's a lovely gif, thanks a lot! :D Can't remember who I discussed about undertray flow with (other than bhall II, I think it was you in RB13 thread) when I was convinced that there is no need at all for floor sealing with some vortices along the floor edges, because of amount of air that comes from outside of floor to the diffuser. This gif isn't enough evidence on that, but at least I have some base for my arguments. :D
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I think what we see in that GIF are sparks being deflected by the rear wheel's bow wave.

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https://twitter.com/FiftyBuckss/status/ ... 8364706816

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PlatinumZealot
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GrizzleBoy wrote:
11 Apr 2017, 11:54
That is one super flexible floor to the inside of the rear tyre.......the floor is literally flapping!
That's because of the same rule that prevents you from putting holes in the floor. Ferrari had to slight the floor from the edge near the midpoint and run that slit all the way up to the side pod deflectors. This makes for a very flappy 12 inch peice. Toro Rosso has a similar design but Maybe they slit the floor from a different point.
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f1316 wrote:
11 Apr 2017, 14:43
What are the load tests on the floor? And how are they applied?

Ultimately, a front wing is legal if it passes the necessary tests - even if during the race we see footage of it flexing like mad; Red Bull proved that multiple times.

I suspect it will be the same with the floor (and potentially FIA will look to introduce stronger loads if they don't like what's happening) but must admit I don't know what kind of tests the floor undergoes.
I don't know if they test the floor either but any moveable earo device other than DRS is not allowed. This is how they banned FRIC and how they clarified the rules on suspension. Presumably the FIA can just ban this overnight.

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