Toro Rosso STR12 Renault

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Albert Fabrega ES‏@AlbertFabrega 3h3 hours ago
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James Key" la extensión del punto pivote del trapecio superior delantero tiene ventajas cinemática d suspensiones pero también aero"
Translated from Spanish by Bing Wrong translation?
"James Key" the extension of the upper trapezius pivot point forward has advantages kinematics of suspension but also aero "
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Looks so small, really gorgeous my favorite so far, then come the Renault and the Ferrari/Haas ex-aequo imo !

TR show us that it's possible to make a car which is not based on a boat/ferry.

Hope this Renault PU will fit it really well and will be reliable as well ! :)
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Go Ricci !

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Tim.Wright wrote:
Holm86 wrote: No, the top point is mounted behind the lower point, this is positive caster angle, and that does increase negative camber when turning.
You achieve higher KPI by having the top mount further inward than the lower mounting point. That would also make to increase the KPI to reduce the scrubbing of the new wider tires ...
That's exactly that I said:
Tim.Wright wrote:If you want negative camber angle on the outer wheel you need to minimise the kpi and increase the caster angle.
KPI does the opposite of caster in terms of camber angle though.
Oh yeah, missed that part ☺️ but to me it does look like it had a big positive caster angle, at least the merc, i Cant really see on the STR

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nevill3 wrote:http://image1.redbull.com/rbx00593/0010 ... 7_cov1.jpg

Image from the Toro Rosso website
most beautiful car of the field hands down.
Dumpster sounds so much more classy. It's the diamond of the cesspools.

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Is it just me, or new car looks shorter even than last years car? Like the wheelbase is shorter than any other car for about 200-300mm?
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THRAK wrote:ToroRosso intuiting a similar front suspension layout as Mercedes' one shows another time they are top level at innovation. In the last years they set so many trends (exhaust-through RW pylon, RW endplates, huge multifonctional airscope way before Merc did, FW cascade design... ). I bet the sidepods inlets are another smart way of making profit of the new regulations (as Ferrari did, but in a totally different fashion). Add the drastic reduction of the sidepods exits compared to previous racers, and here we have a very neat and impressive car. =D>

http://i63.tinypic.com/2zqzvhi.jpg

Yea. I expect them to surprise. Waiting to see what they'll bring to the table tomorrow.

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look at that front wing btw!

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Dumpster sounds so much more classy. It's the diamond of the cesspools.

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Dumpster sounds so much more classy. It's the diamond of the cesspools.

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popovic94 wrote:Is it just me, or new car looks shorter even than last years car? Like the wheelbase is shorter than any other car for about 200-300mm?
Their car last year was possibly the longest. SO it would not surprise me if this one is shorter.

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Beautiful and clean clutter free design.
Best looking car so far. This is what the regulations intended!

The car is on the right path. its lacking some of the excess we have seen with the others, but it appears to be very light and focussed. This car looks like it will have one of the better top speeds. Its just so clean.
For Sure!!

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Is this the way James Key is telling Mercedes, if I can design a "Silver Bull", so similar to W08, I can design a "Silver Arrow" as well? =P~

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I'm intrigued by the lower part of the sidepod beneath the air intake. Seems there is something a little unusual there.

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Beautiful. How 2017 should look. Quite a well developed car for old Minardi team =D>
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Interesting FR+nose+ sideposts. Rest of the car looks more simple but clean and well designed. I guess they hide some aspects of the car like RB does. Anyway I like how it looks.