2017 cars comparison

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Has anybody here with an Autosport Plus account read Gary Anderson's "2017 car ranking" article?
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Manjhi wrote:My god didn't notice that how much slim is that Ferrari. :shock:

What has happened to the Williams ? Did they miss understood the phrase "sand bagging" and are actually putting sand bags in the sidepods or the Mercs is not sharing tech details of the complete package with them :?: :?:
The three Mercedes-engined teams have all gone for different approaches to cooling.

Mercedes have pushed all the bulk as far forward and high up as possible in the sidepods with a big undercut below the intakes, exchanging a large frontal area and the accompanying drag for the maximum possible airflow over the floor. They also have the longest wheelbase on the grid, giving plenty of room for a very narrow midsection.

Williams have gone for a low-drag approach, their sidepods are very narrow across the front with the bulk of cooling packaged in the midsection, and a substantial undercut all the way round to ensure respectable airflow over the floor. The midsection is somewhat bulky, but exaggerated by Williams running the shortest wheelbase on the grid.

Force India can only be described as having screwed up on cooling requirements. Their sidepods are as wide as the Mercedes without any of the undercut, so they have probably the highest frontal drag from sidepods of any team, and despite running the second longest wheelbase the midsection really isn't that narrow. Lot of drag, not much area for airflow over the floor, overall just far more cooling than needed, which the team has admitted and may try to correct with a B-spec car.

Overall the Mercedes engine seems to require quite a lot of cooling, even the works team has larger sidepods than RB, STR, McLaren or Ferrari, just not as much cooling as Force India seemed to think.

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The Ferrari seems smoother then the Merc. And the the direction of ferrari looks a lot faster. On the last chicane you can see how much more the driver of the Mercs have to turn the wheel.

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just look at how the rb13 is the only one where the endplates curl upwards, what do you think the thought process behind this is?

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Thanks Sevach for compiling this comparison of the rear bodywork opening...not sure if that's the right term.
Am quite surprised to see how tiny in area the Mercedes opening is compared to the other teams. I'm also surprised to see that STR have actually found the need to further increase their opening. Perhaps, are they just testing what they may need for the hotter climates? Also, would the larger rear opening allow for greater air-flow through the body work much the same way as having a larger exhaust pipe to promote less back pressure?

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GTO99 wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:01 am

Thanks Sevach for compiling this comparison of the rear bodywork opening...not sure if that's the right term.
Am quite surprised to see how tiny in area the Mercedes opening is compared to the other teams. I'm also surprised to see that STR have actually found the need to further increase their opening. Perhaps, are they just testing what they may need for the hotter climates? Also, would the larger rear opening allow for greater air-flow through the body work much the same way as having a larger exhaust pipe to promote less back pressure?
I would say it's likely that STR was just evaluating their hot races package rather than needed extra cooling, but you never know...

Bigger openings might have that effect on air going through the radiators, i don't know if they do but it makes sense.
But smaller is still the way to go because the air going around the pods is always going to be travelling faster than the one who has to go through the radiators.

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jaydosu wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:37 am
just look at how the rb13 is the only one where the endplates curl upwards, what do you think the thought process behind this is?
Could it be that they simply want to raise the the Y250 vortex?
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