Haas VF-18 Ferrari

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Re: Haas VF18 Speculation Thread

Post by Maritimer » Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:00 pm

I like it

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Re: Haas VF18 Speculation Thread

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Re: Haas VF18 Speculation Thread

Post by Xero » Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:08 pm

Looks fairly developed for a launch car, but perhaps to be expected as an evolutionary concept. Halo looks quite basic, perhaps saving those details for testing.

Unexpected car launch, but has got my juices flowing! Love this time of the year! =D>

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Re: Haas VF18 Speculation Thread

Post by Vanja #66 » Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:08 pm

Pretty much an SF-70H Evo. :D Lovely details, probably some of them will be seen on the red car as well, at least test-spec. Barge boards (just them, not the whole area) seem a bit simplistic, Ferrari had them a lot further last year. Could be something interesting in the pipeline coming up in that area.
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Re: Haas VF18 Speculation Thread

Post by ScrewCaptain27 » Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:17 pm

I’d say it’s time to open the official car thread.
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Re: Haas VF18 Speculation Thread

Post by KingLoe » Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:19 pm

Can't help it but i always like these Haas cars.
This one looks fast, let's hope for them it is =D>

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Re: Haas VF18 Speculation Thread

Post by F1ern » Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:21 pm

So they still buy the suspension from the Ferrari right? Basically we will see this suspension geometry and wheelbase on the new Ferrari as well.

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Re: Haas VF18 Speculation Thread

Post by godlameroso » Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:22 pm

These new cars look so much more refined than in 2018, I can even excuse the halo, there's so many details and improvements to the bodywork. Well done Haas.

The car has a clear mid wing concept going on. Would be interesting to get the aero guru's take on it.
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Re: Haas VF18 Speculation Thread

Post by f1316 » Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:07 pm

Interesting to me that Haas say ‘Bigger’ in their tweet; I can’t tell from eyeballing it but I wonder if that’s an indication of a longer wheelbase (and whether Ferrari’s suspension is based around that...?)

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Re: Haas VF18 Speculation Thread

Post by ian_s » Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:00 pm

and the verdict is: I dont care about the halo, i still had to go take 5 minutes alone time.

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Re: Haas VF18 Speculation Thread

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Re: Haas VF18 Speculation Thread

Post by Ashwinv16 » Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:07 pm

The overall design although complex many parts such as the rear wings are a carryover from last year, but then this is a rendering, more changes in testing.
Notice the Haas clearly uses the entire 5 degree allowance for the exhaust and a more aggressively angled gearbox cover, effectively minimising the lose of the monkey seat.(Well they can't be placed behind the exhaust anymore, but this rule also is part of the reason that opened up to the use of lower T-wing) The shark fin also comes much further away from the engine cover than intended due to Article 3.5.1c.
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The biggest surprise is the side pods. Complex if not more than the Ferrari and the side impact structure is placed lower like Ferrari's last year's design but it is much clearer in this design as it is abruptly cut off unlike Ferrari's 2017 design which was smoothly countered and covered
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Ferrari's design
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Red arrow showing the side impact structure positioning and green arrow showing how it fit through
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The side pod turning vanes (Well deflectors in this case now as they have been focusing on deflecting the air coming from the inner surface of Bargeboards and nose cone (Redbull last year still focused on making the air flow along the sidepods, while Haas and Ferrari focused on making the air flow above the sidepods). Although interesting is pretty much an efficient version to the more crude version they had last year.
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They also reduced the size of the delta wings(The wings attached to the nosecone), as the reshaped sidepod airflow conditioners is now higher than last years sidepod intake. (Will move this to the Car thread once it is available)
Halo not as bad as we thought

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Re: Haas VF18 Speculation Thread

Post by Sevach » Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:28 am

GoranF1 wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:30 pm
Sevach wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:20 pm
Very detailed for a launch spec.

Ferrari sidepods, interesting deflectors, FW...
Ferrari sidepods but bigger openings?
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Re: Haas VF-18 Ferrari

Post by CmdrVOODOO » Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:59 am

What amazes me about this car is Adrian Newey said he couldn't figure out what Ferrari was doing with their side pods and somehow Haas figured it out.

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Re: Haas VF-18 Ferrari

Post by Zynerji » Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:08 am

CmdrVOODOO wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:59 am
What amazes me about this car is Adrian Newey said he couldn't figure out what Ferrari was doing with their side pods and somehow Haas figured it out.
Can't think of any mechanism currently in place that would allow for such an innate understanding.

Personally, I would not doubt if this is similar to the 2004 Sauber car, being only cosmetically different than last years Ferrari. No doubt Haas built it, but there is WAY too much collaboration to not be simply buying last years aero understanding along with suspension/drivetrain components. And that would make total sense, as it is a complete philosophy, not just individual components.

PS: This looks LIGHT YEARS ahead of last years car. Maybe the surprise of the season?!?