Haas VF-18 Ferrari

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Really short flap on the rear wing.
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wesley123 wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:45 pm
Really short flap on the rear wing.
Back when DRS was first introduced (and the allowed angle change was less) a smaller flap was a good way to make it more effective (shed more drag).

Over the years rules changed and teams moved away from this style, maybe Haas is bringing it back for a couple KM/H at the end of the straights.

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Sevach wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:42 pm
wesley123 wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:45 pm
Really short flap on the rear wing.
Back when DRS was first introduced (and the allowed angle change was less) a smaller flap was a good way to make it more effective (shed more drag).

Over the years rules changed and teams moved away from this style, maybe Haas is bringing it back for a couple KM/H at the end of the straights.
If I'm not mistaken there wasn't a fixed angle change for the DRS flap, but a fixed distance for the edge to travel, that's why a shorter flap was beneficial. If the fixed measure was the angle change, a bigger flap would shed more drag.

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Kinda surprising that Haas has been more aggressive than Ferrari in a number of areas.

Diffuser in particular, i mean they started with Ferrari's last season diffuser (give or take).

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Looks like someone just made that in a rush with a hacksaw :lol:

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It still has the protective film on it. That is why it still looks raw on the edges.

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I notice Red Bull don't use such a windscreen, so I wonder how effective it is? :)

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JordanMugen wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:57 pm
I notice Red Bull don't use such a windscreen, so I wonder how effective it is? :)
Usually it's there for driver comfort more than aero performance. It changes the aerodynamic forces on the helmet and can be more or less comfortable for each driver

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JordanMugen wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:57 pm
I notice Red Bull don't use such a windscreen, so I wonder how effective it is? :)
Mercedes do but it's not as high as that one. Each car is different so the effectiveness will be individual to each car. Just because RedBull don't do it, doesn't mean a lot.
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This is pure gold, thank you so much!
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In the past Japanese GP Haas introduced a new floor and diffuser:

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