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diffuser wrote:
11 May 2018, 22:59
You can see that between the DELL and the BR there was a flat spot before than is now rounder.
It's probably just lighting.

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roon wrote:
11 May 2018, 23:47
I see a nosecone like this and wonder what the casual observer thinks. Its design is 90% driven by the extensive ruleset for that area of the car. Trying to optimize parts for such verbose wording leads to this sort of contorted design (not a criticism). I wonder if people realize they're looking at legality-mobiles and not forms that are a pure expression of speed.
Yes they all look like the same underlying car with different novelty sets of slat/fins/louvers in the tiny "freedom-volumes". After a few years the cars always converge in the "freedom-volumes", so the rules are slightly tweaked to create new freedom-volumes. Lather, rinse, repeat. Rules makers are afraid of changing the underlying car look/layout. So current F1 cars look like 1995 cars with venetian blinds added on.

Speaking of legality, I don't think this post is legal in the MCL33 thread, so I will add my own "legality volume": The MCL33 looks like a 1995 McLaren with venetian blinds added on.

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LuisFeF1:

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New cental part of Diffuser.

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Underside of new Nose.

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ALO_Power wrote:
11 May 2018, 22:29
Baku vs Barcelona

http://f1fan.gr/wp-content/uploads/2018 ... 0378-1.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/K8RpA2A.jpg


Well, I don't see any difference on the engine cover but I'm not 100% sure (especially in the rear). What you think?
Am I the only one that noticed they've changed the area in front of the rear tires on the floor. The 3d inverted wedge has a slot next to it now.

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godlameroso wrote:
12 May 2018, 17:54
ALO_Power wrote:
11 May 2018, 22:29
Baku vs Barcelona

http://f1fan.gr/wp-content/uploads/2018 ... 0378-1.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/K8RpA2A.jpg


Well, I don't see any difference on the engine cover but I'm not 100% sure (especially in the rear). What you think?
Am I the only one that noticed they've changed the area in front of the rear tires on the floor. The 3d inverted wedge has a slot next to it now.

https://i.imgur.com/OMZvJLp.jpg
I noticed it in a photo posted a few pages back to compare Baku and this race's car from the top.

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mclaren111 wrote:
12 May 2018, 12:15
LuisFeF1:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dc_NuWiWsAA6-D8.jpg:large

New cental part of Diffuser.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dc8QWhqX0AAH3Ye.jpg

Underside of new Nose.
Best picture of how the nose ducts work. It's a reverse S duct. Instead of taking under nose flow over the nose. They use the fins on either side to perform the same conditioning as an S duct, meanwhile the cape gets blown by the nose slots speeding up the air underneath as it adds energy to the vortecies produced by the cape. At least that's what it looks to my brain, probably wrong.
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godlameroso wrote:
12 May 2018, 22:57
mclaren111 wrote:
12 May 2018, 12:15
LuisFeF1:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dc_NuWiWsAA6-D8.jpg:large

New cental part of Diffuser.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dc8QWhqX0AAH3Ye.jpg

Underside of new Nose.
Best picture of how the nose ducts work. It's a reverse S duct. Instead of taking under nose flow over the nose. They use the fins on either side to perform the same conditioning as an S duct, meanwhile the cape gets blown by the nose slots speeding up the air underneath as it adds energy to the vortecies produced by the cape. At least that's what it looks to my brain, probably wrong.
Don't think the cape makes vortexes; it only channels the air.

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godlameroso wrote:
12 May 2018, 22:57
mclaren111 wrote:
12 May 2018, 12:15
LuisFeF1:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dc_NuWiWsAA6-D8.jpg:large

New cental part of Diffuser.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dc8QWhqX0AAH3Ye.jpg

Underside of new Nose.
Best picture of how the nose ducts work. It's a reverse S duct. Instead of taking under nose flow over the nose. They use the fins on either side to perform the same conditioning as an S duct, meanwhile the cape gets blown by the nose slots speeding up the air underneath as it adds energy to the vortecies produced by the cape. At least that's what it looks to my brain, probably wrong.
The nose is a ground effects nose. Air blows through the two nostrils beside the centre nostril and creates a suction effect on the duct on the bottom of the cape. This then lowers the pressure under the cape, creating a ground effect and also strengthening vortices off the side of the cape.
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Which is why I said it'll take some time to setup to get the most time out of it, it's not just a bolt on job, they're going to have to play with front ride heights and settings to keep it stable in ground effect.

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PhillipM wrote:
13 May 2018, 01:42
Which is why I said it'll take some time to setup to get the most time out of it, it's not just a bolt on job, they're going to have to play with front ride heights and settings to keep it stable in ground effect.
I fully agree, there is almost certain to be minor amendments needed to extract the most out of what appears to be a very complex set of interdependent parts.

With that in mind it makes the decision to introduce such a comprehensive upgrade package right before two days of in-season testing all the wiser. I expect them to rack up some serious mileage during those two days to tune the upgrades properly.

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ringo wrote:
13 May 2018, 00:30
godlameroso wrote:
12 May 2018, 22:57
mclaren111 wrote:
12 May 2018, 12:15
LuisFeF1:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dc_NuWiWsAA6-D8.jpg:large

New cental part of Diffuser.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dc8QWhqX0AAH3Ye.jpg

Underside of new Nose.
Best picture of how the nose ducts work. It's a reverse S duct. Instead of taking under nose flow over the nose. They use the fins on either side to perform the same conditioning as an S duct, meanwhile the cape gets blown by the nose slots speeding up the air underneath as it adds energy to the vortecies produced by the cape. At least that's what it looks to my brain, probably wrong.
The nose is a ground effects nose. Air blows through the two nostrils beside the centre nostril and creates a suction effect on the duct on the bottom of the cape. This then lowers the pressure under the cape, creating a ground effect and also strengthening vortices off the side of the cape.
:lol: That's more or less what I said, in order to create "suction" the air under the cape has to travel faster than air over it,
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Ok a whole bunch of Posts have been moved to the Team Thread. Keep on Topic please.
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Really? Wallpaper requests in the Car Thread. Please Guys.....
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[media]https://mobile.twitter.com/McLarenF1/st ... 28/video/1][/media]

They’ve got the old package on this morning. Likely be doing some back to back tests.

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Dipesh1995 wrote:
15 May 2018, 10:37
https://mobile.twitter.com/McLarenF1/st ... 8/video/1]

They’ve got the old package on this morning. Likely be doing some back to back tests.
I think it's the Pirelli car with Norris. Notice the green rookie light
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